SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
February 21, 2005 Hearing Room 343
1:00 P.M. Tapes 40 - 41
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: Heidi Moawad, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 106 – Public Hearing
SB 262 – Work Session
SB 113 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 40, A |
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003 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:12 p.m. and opens a public hearing on SB 106. |
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SB 106 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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006 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes SB 106, relating to abuse of the elderly. |
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026 |
Erinn Kelley-Siel |
Policy Advisor, Elder Abuse Task Force (EATF). Testifies in support of SB 106. Discusses the Governor’s Elder Abuse Task Force Report (EXHIBIT A). |
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058 |
Kelley-Siel |
Gives recent examples of why this bill needs to be passed. Cites statistical information on elder abuse. |
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093 |
Kelley-Siel |
Talks about two possible amendments the EATF recommends for SB 106. |
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110 |
Kelley-Siel |
Comments on the Governor’s personal history with elder care. |
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127 |
Joyce DeMonnin |
Coordinator, Elder Safe Program. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 106 (EXHIBIT B). |
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152 |
DeMonnin |
Discusses the EATF that studied elder abuse in Oregon. |
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175 |
DeMonnin |
Mentions elder sex abuse and financial exploitation. |
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208 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires about some confusion in the wording of SB 106. |
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214 |
Kelley-Siel |
Responds to the confusion on different sections of the bill. |
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240 |
Sen. Beyer |
Wonders about the narrowing of the term “disabled person.” |
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248 |
Kelley-Siel |
Comments on the definition of “disabled persons.” Talks about an amendment that fixes the confusion. |
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276 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about a statute relating to brain injuries on line 17, page 2 of SB 106. |
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286 |
Kelley-Siel |
States that she is not sure about that statute, but will investigate. |
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290 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about mandatory reporters. |
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301 |
DeMonnin |
Replies that the EATF was not meant to focus on investigation by mandatory reporters; talks about training for mandatory reporters. Mentions a statewide elder abuse conference in September. |
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325 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about immunity for mandatory reporters who are wrong when reporting suspected abuse. |
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332 |
DeMonnin |
Conveys that the immunity would cover those individuals. |
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349 |
Pete Shepherd |
Deputy Attorney General. Testifies in support of SB 106. Comments on the immunity for an erroneous report made in good faith. |
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380 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if an individual, who was not properly trained, missed the signs of elder abuse, can the law come back to prosecute them. |
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385 |
Shepherd |
Responds with information on the existing mandatory reporting process and history. |
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407 |
Morgen Brodie |
Program Coordinator, Department of Human Services. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 106 (EXHIBIT C). |
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437 |
Brodie |
Cites information on elder abuse. |
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475 |
Brodie |
Continues with information on elder abuse. |
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TAPE 41, A |
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030 |
Brodie |
Talks about the information on elder sex abuse. |
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059 |
Kamala Shugar |
Deputy District Attorney, Lane County. Testifies in support of SB 106. Brings up the issue of threats as a means of elder abuse, and how SB 106 addresses these problems. |
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078 |
Bertran Copp |
Testifies in support of SB 106. Advocates the alteration of the bill to get around legal hang-ups. Suggests solutions to the confusing wording in SB 106. |
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106 |
Dolores Hubert |
Chair, Governor’s Commission on Senior Services. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 106 (EXHIBIT D). |
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142 |
Rick Bennett |
Associate State Director, American Association of Retired Persons. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 106 (EXHIBIT E). |
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152 |
Timothy Marble |
Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 106 (EXHIBIT F). Talks about the will attached to Exhibit F. Addresses concerns raised during the drafting of the bill. |
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215 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks who drafted this bill. |
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217 |
Marble |
Responds that he has drafted segments of the bill. |
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223 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about abuse provisions in SB 106. |
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231 |
Marble |
Explains the segment of the bill under question. |
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256 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Wonders why there isn’t an emergency clause in the wording. |
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267 |
Marble |
Responds that he would support such an amendment. |
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273 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks about the immunity issue concerning an accusation made in good faith. |
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261 |
Chair Burdick |
Interjects that they will have other witnesses who can better answer the question. |
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287 |
Marble |
Discusses the wording of SB 106. |
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292 |
Bob Livingston |
Oregon State Firefighter’s Council. Testifies as a neutral party on SB 106. Affirms his belief in approaching and battling the issue of elder abuse. Addresses his concern of the wording in this particular bill. Expresses his desire for more training for mandatory reporting. |
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346 |
Livingston |
Discusses the problems inherent in the mandatory reporting clause. |
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369 |
Sen. Walker |
Talks about training for mandatory reporters. |
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392 |
Livingston |
Responds that there is already quite a bit of required training. |
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407 |
Sen. Walker |
Raises the issue that district attorneys are not prosecuting mandatory reporting violations. |
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444 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks about subtle signs of abuse. |
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450 |
Livingston |
Replies that the issue of subtle abuse is a difficult one. Discusses the problems with diagnosing injuries or signs of elder abuse. States that there are other representatives better trained to identify these signs. |
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484 |
Sen. Beyer |
Wonders if volunteer firefighters would fall under this classification. |
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489 |
Livingston |
Insists that they fall under the classification. |
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515 |
Chair Burdick |
Enters written testimony from Nan Heim and Claudia M. Burton (EXHIBITS G & H). |
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TAPE 40, B |
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040 |
Chair Burdick |
Questions the wording in SB 106. |
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043 |
Shepherd |
Addresses the wording in question. Talks about the concerns that came about during the drafting of the bill. |
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071 |
Shepherd |
Comments on a hypothetical self-help method to resolve guardianship issues. |
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097 |
Sen. Beyer |
Talks about the mandatory reporting for child abuse. |
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100 |
Shepherd |
Responds with information on the statute. |
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106 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if volunteer firefighters would fall under this bill. |
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109 |
Shepherd |
Replies that he is not sure. |
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111 |
Sen. Beyer |
Wonders if elected officials fall under the definitions in this bill. |
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122 |
Shepherd |
Responds with information on the definition of elected official. |
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131 |
Sen. Beyer |
Raises the hypothesis of a constituent coming to him with a grievance of financial elder abuse. |
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138 |
Kelley-Siel |
Replies to the hypothesis relating to mandatory reporting. |
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143 |
Chair Burdick |
Wonders if there is a duty to investigate the problem. |
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145 |
Shepherd |
Discusses the mandatory reporting responsibilities and process. |
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185 |
Victor Hoffer |
Attorney General’s Elder Abuse Task Force. Testifies in support of SB 106. |
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223 |
Hoffer |
Addresses the earlier questions on training and mandatory reporting. |
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278 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on SB 106 and opens a work session on SB 262. |
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SB 262 – WORK SESSION |
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295 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Introduces the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT I). |
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313 |
Bryan Boehringer |
Director, Government Relations, Oregon Health Sciences University. Discusses the -4 amendments, and the reasoning behind them. |
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330 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires to the sunset clause of the bill. |
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335 |
Chair Burdick |
Offers information as to the sunset clause of SB 262. |
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358 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 262-4 amendments dated 2/21/05. |
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362 |
Sen. Walker |
Discusses the bill from last session and her decision. |
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374 |
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VOTE: 5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Prozanski, Ringo, Whitsett, Starr, Burdick NAY: 1 - Walker EXCUSED: 1 – Beyer |
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385 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion Carries. |
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389 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 262 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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391 |
Sen. Prozanski |
States that he is reserved as to his decision, but will currently vote aye. |
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VOTE: 5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Prozanski, Ringo, Whitsett, Starr, Burdick NAY: 1 - Walker EXCUSED: 1 - Beyer |
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406 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion Carries. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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433 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 262 and opens a public hearing on SB 113. |
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SB 113 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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437 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes SB 113, relating to qualifying for the driving under the influence of intoxicants diversion program. |
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465 |
Teresa Douglas |
Governor’s Advocacy Committee on Driving Under the Influence of Intoxicants (DUII). Reads testimony in support of SB 113 (EXHIBIT J). |
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TAPE 41, B |
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051 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks why they have settled on 15 years between convictions in the bill. |
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054 |
Douglas |
Responds as to the choice of 15 years. |
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064 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Wonders if ignition key locked breathalyzers would be a better choice for enforcement. |
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071 |
Douglas |
Replies that the ignition interlock breathalyzers are best used in DUII convictions, not diversions. |
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075 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks why they do not do better with prevention. |
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076 |
Douglas |
Responds that she is not an expert on the method. |
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080 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires why the difference between ten to 15 years is so important. |
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087 |
Douglas |
Gives information as to why the years were increased in the bill. |
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095 |
Sen. Ringo |
Wonders about the recidivism rates in the DUII program. |
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099 |
Douglas |
Explains that she does not have statistics, but in her experience as an evaluator, she sees a 15-20% recidivism rate. |
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106 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires if this bill will work, or will it keep those who are making an honest effort from succeeding. |
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111 |
Douglas |
Affirms that they need to stop giving people a way out of the sanctions. |
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116 |
Sen. Ringo |
Expresses confusion as to whether this bill will only affect the honest individuals who truly seek to clean up. |
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123 |
Moawad |
Clarifies the issue on SB 113. |
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132 |
Kelly Skye |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 113. Discusses the history of the DUII program. |
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180 |
Skye |
Outlines why this will not keep drinking and driving from occurring. |
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185 |
Sen. Walker |
Points out legislation that occurred in a previous session relating to these laws. |
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205 |
Kamala Shugar |
Deputy District Attorney, Lane County. Testifies in support of SB 113. Talks about the DUII diversion program. |
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242 |
Shugar |
Addresses the true purpose of diversion and the goal of prosecutors. |
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270 |
Shugar |
Offers assistance in gathering statistics on diversion programs and success rates. Talks about the ignition interlock device mentioned earlier. |
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302 |
Anne Pratt |
Crime Victim’s United & Mother’s Against Drunk Driving. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 113 (EXHIBIT K). Introduces SB 625 as a possible amendment to SB 113 (EXHIBIT L). Submits written testimony in support of SB 113 (EXHIBITS M – O). |
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360 |
Pratt |
Discusses repeat offenders. Talks about another diversion program in Maryland. |
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390 |
Chair Burdick |
Introduces written testimony from Troy E. Costales and Lloyd N. Clodfelter (EXHIBITS P & Q). |
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429 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on SB 113 and adjourns the meeting at 3:04 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY