SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
April 05, 2005 Hearing Room 343
1:00 P.M. Tapes 94 - 95
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: William E. Taylor, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 948 – Public Hearing
SB 953 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 113 – Work Session
SB 114 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 368 – Public Hearing
SB 940 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 94, A |
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003 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:17 p.m. and opens a public hearing on SB 948. |
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SB 948 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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005 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 948 relating to directing the courts to suspend driving privileges and the right to apply for driving privileges for a period not to exceed one year if the person provides alcoholic liquor to persons under the age of 21 years in violation of the law. |
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015 |
Rob Douglas |
DIAGEO. Testifies in support of SB 948. Discusses the statistics on Oregon’s under age alcohol consumption. |
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043 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about an amendment that would allow consumption of alcohol for religious purposes. |
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049 |
Douglas |
Replies that they would support such an amendment. |
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052 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks why there is not a more lenient bill, especially for first time offenders. |
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060 |
Douglas |
Responds that this bill will have a positive effect on reducing underage alcohol consumption. |
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070 |
Sen. Beyer |
Wonders about a scenario involving a homeowner who does not actively engage or witness the illegal consumption of alcohol and who does nothing to actively stop the drinking of alcohol: Will they be held liable. |
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081 |
Douglas |
Replies that they would most likely have to be physically present in order to be held liable. |
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093 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about a person who purchases alcohol but does not remain to be present at the underage consumption of alcohol. |
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105 |
Douglas |
States that they would be liable if other children besides their own were involved. |
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110 |
Chair Burdick |
Attempts to clarify the issue. |
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120 |
Bernie Giusto |
Multnomah County Sheriff. Testifies on the issue of underage consumption of alcohol. Recounts his own history with underage drinking in college. |
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161 |
Giusto |
Stresses that the jail is full of people that will recount that their history of drug addiction began with underage alcohol consumption. Testifies in support of SB 948. |
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187 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires about provisional licenses being allowed to offenders. |
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190 |
Giusto |
States that he believes they would be allowed. |
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193 |
Chris Gibson |
Deputy Chief of Police, Beaverton Police Department. Testifies in support of SB 948. Discusses current law that faces individuals who decide to provide alcohol to minors. |
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247 |
Kelly Skye |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 948. States their hesitance to support a bill that would punish an individual with something that has nothing to do with the crime (driving license and alcohol consumption have little in common in this regard). |
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282 |
Steve Lanning |
Oregon American Federation of Labor - Congress of Industrial Organizations. Testifies in opposition to SB 948. Discusses the proposed amendments. |
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302 |
Sen. Beyer |
Brings up the issue of “knowingly” making a sell to minors. |
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307 |
Chair Burdick |
Clarifies the issue, and discusses the “knowingly” clause within the bill. |
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326 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires about the clause. |
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327 |
Chair Burdick |
Offers clarification on the drafting of the bill. |
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343 |
Andi Jordan |
Oregon Parent Teacher Association. Testifies in support of SB 948. |
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357 |
Otto Schell |
Oregon Parent Teacher Association. Testifies in support of SB 948. Talks about the repercussions of underage drinking. |
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403 |
Sen. Ringo |
Stresses his worries about people driving without their license, and how this could turn into a spiral of crime. |
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423 |
Schell |
Addresses the concerns from Sen. Ringo. Talks about driving as social mobility and more than just transportation for those who the bill would affect. |
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454 |
Paul Cosgrove |
Distilled Spirits Council of the United States. Testifies in support of SB 948 and the possible amendments. Discusses the fear of losing your driving privileges as a good deterrent in committing an illegal action. |
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TAPE 95, A |
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022 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on SB 948 and opens a public hearing on SB 953. |
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SB 953 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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024 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 953 relating to modifying the exemption from public records disclosure of information about persons who donate money or property to Oregon Health and Science University so that the exemption is the same as the exemption for persons who donate money or property to the Oregon University System. |
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031 |
Bryan Boehringer |
Oregon Health and Science University. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 953 (EXHIBIT A). |
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058 |
Sen. Walker |
Stresses that she does not like exemptions to the public records law. Asks about the public records law in relation to the university system. |
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067 |
Boehringer |
Replies with information on the university system’s relationship with the public record law. Talks about the budget problems facing the university system, and how this removes a barrier from private donations. |
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083 |
Sen. Walker |
Agrees with the earlier statement of the bill removing a possible barrier from private donations. |
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090 |
Taylor |
Clarifies the drafting choices of the bill. |
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102 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about a sunset clause. |
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105 |
Boehringer |
Discusses the different sections and addresses the sunset clause. |
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115 |
Sen. Beyer |
Reiterates that he does not see a date when the sunset clause would go into effect. |
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119 |
Boehringer |
Replies that there is no current sunset clause, and describes the reasoning. |
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122 |
Taylor |
Offers clarification on the sunset clause in SB 953. |
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136 |
Sen. Beyer |
Discusses subsection 26 in the bill relating to the sunset clause. |
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142 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on SB 953. |
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SB 953 – WORK SESSION |
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145 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 953 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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147 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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153 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 953 and opens a work session on SB 113. |
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SB 113 – WORK SESSION |
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156 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 113 relating to increasing the number of years between certain convictions before a person can qualify for driving while under the influence of intoxicants diversion program. |
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167 |
Chair Burdick |
Discusses the proposed amendments. |
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184 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 113 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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187 |
Sen. Beyer |
Offers his objections to the bill. |
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192 |
Sen. Walker |
Talks about the possible objections she has with the bill. |
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205 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that 10 years is a long time, and that there has yet to be a valid argument that proves that increasing the time between penalties is a good idea. |
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213 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments on diversion programs, and agrees with Sen. Beyer’s concern. |
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228 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Agrees with Sen. Ringo, and discusses the diversion programs. |
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234 |
Sen. Walker |
Points out a discrepancy in the files with the data. |
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240 |
Sen. Prozanski |
States his concern over the 15 years time frame. |
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257 |
Starr |
Moves to withdraw the motion to send SB 113 to the floor. |
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265 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Talks about the work the Governor’s Task Force has done on this bill. |
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278 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 113 and opens a public hearing on SB 114. |
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SB 114 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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282 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 114 relating to increasing the fees for screening interviews of persons convicted of driving while under the influence of intoxicants and diagnostic assessments of persons entering diversion agreements. |
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291 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks when the original fee was established. |
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306 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Replies that it was enacted within the last ten years. |
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316 |
Teresa Douglas |
Governor’s Advisory Committee on Driving Under the Influence of Intoxicants (DUII), Alcohol and Drug Evaluation Specialist. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 114 (EXHIBIT B). |
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370 |
Douglas |
Discusses the budgetary concerns for the courts, and how the evaluation specialists have been helping alleviate some of their concerns with volunteering time. |
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407 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks how they handle people who are unable to pay. |
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410 |
Douglas |
Replies that many evaluators, herself included, allow lower fees for those who are food-stamp eligible. |
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418 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about someone who could not pay for the evaluation. |
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423 |
Douglas |
Responds that she allows individuals to make payments, but if they refuse to pay then she will have to send them back to the courts. |
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430 |
Sally Penna |
Alcohol and Drug Evaluation Specialist. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 114 (EXHIBIT C). Talks about a recent bill facing the legislature and how it was forced down due to a gut and stuff amendment that had nothing to do with the issue. |
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481 |
Taylor |
Comments on the rights of individuals for diversion programs, and invites Kelly Skye from the Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association to testify. |
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498 |
Kelly Skye |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association (OCDLA). Testifies on the rights for treatments and services for diversion because of inability to pay. |
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TAPE 94, B |
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047 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks about those who cannot afford to pay for these diversion programs. |
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052 |
Skye |
Responds with information on the requirements facing the state dealing with diversion programs. |
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064 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Brings up the issue of inflation rates. |
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071 |
Skye |
Replies that this is one of the reasons the OCDLA has no objections. |
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078 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires about the sunset provision on the bill. |
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086 |
Taylor |
Offers information on the sunset clause on SB 114. |
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102 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks when the surcharge goes away after the sunset clause, what occurs then (Section 3, 1A). |
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111 |
Taylor |
Responds that he isn’t sure. |
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116 |
Skye |
Offers clarification on the sunset clause. |
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128 |
Taylor |
Addresses the problems with the sunset clause. |
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147 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Talks about section 3 on page 2 relating to the emergency clause. |
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157 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about the difference between the $136 and the $112 in the bill. |
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159 |
Sen. Beyer |
Replies that he isn’t sure either. |
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168 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on SB 113 and opens a public hearing on SB 368. |
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SB 368 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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170 |
Chair Burdick |
Describes SB 368 relating to prohibiting audiovisual recording of motion pictures in motion picture theaters without consent of the theater owner. Introduces the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT D). |
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180 |
Amy Isbell |
Vice President, State Legislative Affairs, Motion Picture Association. Testifies in support of SB 368. |
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220 |
Isbell |
Advocates that the disruption of camcorder-wielding individuals is a vital step in halting piracy in their industry. Discusses the immunity language for theater owners in the drafting of the bill. |
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247 |
Isbell |
Expresses their support of the -1 amendment. |
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252 |
Chair Burdick |
Addresses the proposed amendment. |
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257 |
Isbell |
Talks about the changes made in the amendment. |
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263 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks how someone is discovered in a theater using a camcorder. |
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270 |
Isbell |
Replies that there are watermarks for certain theaters that let their industry know where these movies are being taped. Discusses pre-release screenings employing law enforcement or metal-detecting “wands” to identify camcorders and other recording devices. |
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290 |
Isbell |
Talks about the night-vision goggles used during the movie screening by some theater owners. |
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315 |
Sen. Walker |
Brings up the possibilities of “wanding” people before a movie screening and the invasion of privacy issues this presents. |
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329 |
Isbell |
Stresses that the movie-going experience is meant to be a positive one. Explains that they do not want those types of draconian tactics to be employed. |
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338 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on SB 368 and opens a public hearing on SB 940. |
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SB 940 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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352 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Describes SB 940 relating to requiring the sheriff to fix the date for foreclosure sales. Introduces the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT E). |
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370 |
Kristina McNitt |
Oregon Water Resources Congress. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 940 (EXHIBIT F). |
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420 |
McNitt |
Continues reading testimony in support of SB 940 dealing with the judgment form issued from the courts. |
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450 |
McNitt |
Discusses the -1 amendment. |
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TAPE 95, B |
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021 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Inquires as to the differences between this process and other methods of foreclosure. |
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030 |
Anita Winkler |
Executive Director, Oregon Water Resource Congress. Testifies in support of SB 940 and addresses the question relating to the difference between foreclosure methods. |
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044 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks for a memorandum explaining the rationale in structuring the law in this way. |
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050 |
McNitt |
Responds that they’d be happy to do such a thing, and discusses the opportunity for landowners to remedy this situation. |
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057 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Advocates for uniformity in the different methods of foreclosure law. |
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071 |
McNitt |
Agrees with Sen. Prozanski on this issue. |
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074 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks for the justification for choosing the sheriff as the judge in these cases. |
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084 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires about shared ownership over water rights. |
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091 |
Winkler |
Cites Oregon statutes relating to this issue on water rights. |
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106 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Discusses the water rights inherent in owning the land. |
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111 |
Winkler |
Clarifies the issue over ownership of the land not always being the owner of the water. |
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131 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Stresses that you can’t transfer the land without the water being transferred as well. |
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137 |
Winkler |
Replies that there are transactions going on right now severing the water rights from the land. |
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138 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on SB 940 and opens a public hearing on SB 114. |
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SB 114 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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149 |
Dave Heynderickx |
Legislative Counsel. Discusses the drafting of SB 114 and the reasoning behind the choices on the bill. |
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190 |
Heynderickx |
Continues discussion on the drafting choices for SB 114. |
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219 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if Mr. Heynderickx is convinced that the bill raises the fees for evaluators. |
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225 |
Heynderickx |
Replies that, to his belief, it does. |
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231 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on SB 114 and opens a work session on SB 114. |
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SB 114 – WORK SESSION |
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233 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 114 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Prozanski, Starr C., Walker, Whitsett, Burdick NAY: 1 - Beyer EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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247 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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250 |
Chair Burdick |
Adjourns the meeting at 2:57 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY