SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
April 26, 2005 Hearing Room 343
1:00 P.M. Tapes 121 - 123
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: William E. Taylor, Counsel
Joe O'Leary, Counsel
Sam Sears, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2370A – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 1034 – Public Hearing
SB 965 – Work Session
SB 324 – Work Session
SB 947 – Work Session
SB 495 – Work Session
SB 568 – Public Hearing and Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 121, A |
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003 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:10 p.m. and opens a public hearing on HB 2370A. |
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HB 2370A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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006 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2370A relating to requiring the State Medical Examiner to issue death certificates within 45 days of a receipt of information that a person who is missing at sea and presumed dead and when the State Medical Examiner determines the information is credible. |
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019 |
Rep. Alan Brown |
House District 10. Testifies in support of HB 2370A. Describes the difficulties and hazards with commercial fishing. |
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045 |
Chair Burdick |
Recites her story of a trip to Newport where a memorial was placed listing all the people who were lost to sea. |
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049 |
Rep. Brown |
Talks about the need for this bill. Tells a story of a recent crabbing boat expedition that lost members at sea. |
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069 |
Sen. Starr |
Details a story involving several of his family members being lost to sea. |
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093 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2370A. |
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HB 2370A – WORK SESSION |
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095 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2370A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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097 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. STARR will lead discussion on the floor. |
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098 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2370A and opens a public hearing on SB 1034. |
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SB 1034 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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102 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Describes SB 1034 relating to establishing the criteria for the court to dismiss the commitment of a ward to the Department of Human Services. |
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120 |
Hans Bernard |
Legislative Assistant, Senator Brown. Testifies in support of SB 1034. States that the bill will build a bridge for foster care children to travel into adulthood. Expresses their belief that SB 1034 will do much to alleviate crime rates among foster children. |
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142 |
Maggie Miller |
Executive Director, Citizen’s Crime Commission. Submits a study labeled “Teens Aging out of Foster Care in Oregon”, and a booklet on the Citizen’s Crime Commission (EXHIBITS A & B). Testifies in support of SB 1034. |
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195 |
Miller |
Discusses the costs resulting from criminal acts by foster children. |
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207 |
Chair Burdick |
Commends the witness on her work with foster children. |
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211 |
Julie McFarlane |
Supervising Attorney, Juvenile Rights Project. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 1034 (EXHIBIT C). Talks about SB 808 from the 2003 Legislative session dealing with foster care children. |
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260 |
McFarlane |
Explains the recommended amendment the Juvenile Rights Commission would like to have added to the bill. Addresses the study on Teens Aging out of Foster Care in Oregon” (Exhibit A). |
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288 |
Chair Burdick |
Accepts written testimony from Janet Arenz, Executive Director of the Oregon Alliance for Child Advocacy (EXHIBIT D). |
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290 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires about the state keeping children until the age of 21 instead of releasing them at 18. |
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296 |
McFarlane |
Replies that there has always been the rule of being able to keep the child until the age of 21. Explains that some are emotionally ready to be released at 18, but many have developmental problems. |
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316 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if this is an unwritten rule or policy of their agency to keep the kids until age 21. |
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320 |
McFarlane |
States that statute and policy both allow foster care to keep the children until the age of 21. |
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330 |
Chair Burdick |
Wonders what happens to those released at 18, and if they can be released earlier. |
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333 |
McFarlane |
Offers information on those who are released earlier than 21: 18 years of age, and sometimes at 16. |
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354 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if they choose to stay in care until 21, if they are entitled. |
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359 |
McFarlane |
Explains that they aren’t “entitled” to stay until 21, but most individuals who do stay until 21 do so because of developmental problems. |
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372 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires if the state continues to pay for foster care children over 18 years of age. |
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375 |
McFarlane |
Replies that the state does pay for children up until they are released from foster care. Points out that the federal government gives money for foster care children at 19. |
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412 |
Kevin George |
Manager, Foster Care Program, Department of Human Services. Submits testimony and testifies in a neutral stance on SB 1034 (EXHIBIT E). Talks about the funding for foster children. |
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TAPE 122, A |
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019 |
George |
Says they are funding 350 youths, aged 18-21, from state general fund dollars. Declares that this is 5% of the overall foster care population. |
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042 |
George |
Talks about programs and opportunities that his organization offers to foster children. |
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066 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if the 2003 Legislature approved the funding of foster care children from the age of 18-21. |
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069 |
George |
Replies with information on SB 808 from the 2003 Legislature session that addressed the issue of foster care children. |
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084 |
Sen. Beyer |
Wonders if the money paid towards the 18-21 aged foster care children go directly to the child or the foster-parent. |
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089 |
George |
Responds that the money goes directly to the parents. |
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097 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks what occurs when the foster care children are not living in the home. |
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099 |
George |
States that there are some children attending college, with a fund setup by the 2001 Legislature, and those children are getting some direct payments from the state. Explains that 103 foster children are receiving direct payments, including college students and youths starting off without any assistance other than the money from the state funds. |
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110 |
Sen. Beyer |
Raises an issue with another bill that seeks to pay money towards family members who accept youths into their homes, under the age of 18, and who are not able to receive monies from the state because of a lack of funds. |
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149 |
George |
Addresses the policy decisions relating to this issue. Talks about the funding of these programs. |
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164 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if these children aged 19 or above, are developmentally challenged. |
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166 |
George |
Replies that a large amount of the foster children are developmentally challenged. Talks about federal laws concerning funding for foster care support. |
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186 |
Timothy Travis |
Oregon Judicial Department. Testifies in support of SB 1034. Stresses that these kids don’t have a support net without the state. Points out that when you dismiss a dependency case such as these, they don’t get sent “home” because there is no home for them. |
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230 |
Travis |
Addresses the proposed amendment that Julie McFarlane talked about earlier. States that most of these kids think they can make it on their own, but points out that, as adults, we know better. Expresses his belief that these foster kids need our assistance and support even if they don’t believe they do. |
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270 |
Travis |
Offers his cooperation on working with the drafting for this bill. |
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288 |
Dennis L. Morrow |
Executive Director, Janus Youth Programs. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 1034 (EXHIBIT F). Reads testimony on foster care children. |
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329 |
Morrow |
Discusses his organization, Janus, which focuses on providing assistance and intervention programs for kids. Talks about the problems he runs into fighting for runaway children. |
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380 |
Morrow |
Describes the problems in state children welfare programs: transitional programs available to kids age 17-21. |
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400 |
Morrow |
Asks a hypothetical situation of the committee: if their own child ran away, would they want them under his program (or a well-funded foster care system), or on the streets. |
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438 |
Chair Burdick |
Commends the witness on his work and testimony. |
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443 |
Jean Lassiter |
Oregon Homeless & Runaway Youth Coalition. Testifies in support of SB 1034. |
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TAPE 121, B |
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021 |
Lassiter |
Discusses the particular needs facing foster children after their matriculation from the program. Stresses the large amount of support that is needed for these kids. |
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058 |
Ed Johnston |
Lincoln County. Declares that the state is responsible for these kids. |
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102 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on SB 1034 and opens a work session on SB 965. |
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SB 965 – WORK SESSION |
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105 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Describes SB 956 relating to creating a cause of action for invasion of personal privacy. Introduces and discusses the -6 amendment (EXHIBIT G). |
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134 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks about liquidated damages. |
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135 |
O’Leary |
Describes the legal definition of liquidated damages. |
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150 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about examples under this bill would relate to liquidated damages. |
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152 |
O’Leary |
Details the circumstances and scenarios that fall under the current bill with the -6 amendment. |
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164 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks about the dissemination of the recordings. |
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169 |
O’Leary |
Replies with information on how the -6 addresses this question of knowingly disseminating the images/recordings. |
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195 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 965-6 amendments dated 4/25/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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196 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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198 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 965 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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200 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. JOHNSTON will lead discussion on the floor. |
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205 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 965 and opens a work session on SB 324. |
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SB 324 – WORK SESSION |
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206 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 324 relating to removing an exception requiring confidentiality under certain conditions for terms of settlement or compromise of action involving a public body and terms of mediation agreements involving a public body. Introduces the -2 amendment (EXHIBIT H). |
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229 |
Sen. Walker |
Talks about the reasoning behind the creation of the bill. Discusses several cases of sexual abuse that occurred in the Oregon State Hospital. |
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255 |
Sen. Walker |
Reads leaked testimony from the assistant attorney general relating to one of the cases discussed above. Talks about the -2 amendment, and how it doesn’t quite fit her idea of what she wants to occur in the bill. |
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278 |
Kevin Neely |
Department of Justice. Talks about the situations behind why this bill was drafted. Discusses the redacting of information from public record in these cases. |
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317 |
Chair Burdick |
Explains that she wants to get the bill right before sending it out of the committee. |
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321 |
Neely |
Details the needed changes for the bill. |
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326 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires about research into legislative intent relating to this issue. Points out that this bill does exactly the same thing as he believes is supposed to occur in current statute. |
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345 |
Sen. Walker |
Addresses the problems with the current statute, and the holes in these laws that are able to be driven around. |
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361 |
Neely |
Discusses the reasoning behind the drafting choices in the amendment. |
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384 |
Chair Burdick |
Stresses that the redacted information should relate only to the victim and not the case itself. |
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390 |
Sen. Beyer |
Points out that if Subsection B stays in the amendment, then the bill would be exactly equal to current statute. |
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403 |
Taylor |
Clarifies the amendment’s effect on current statute. |
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432 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 324 and moves SB 881 and SB 324 to Thursday, April 28, 2005. Opens a work session on SB 947. |
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SB 947 – WORK SESSION |
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445 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 947 relating to requiring the Department of Human Services to make records concerning reports of child abuse available to any person if the child dies or suffers serious physical injury. Introduces and describes the -3 amendment (EXHIBIT I). |
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TAPE 122, B |
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025 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks about the -1 and -2 being adopted into the -3. |
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026 |
Taylor |
Replies that the -3 is the amendment they need for the bill. |
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033 |
Tom Gallagher |
Oregon Newspaper Publishers. Testifies in support of the bill and the -3 amendment. |
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037 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires how he knows that disclosing the information is in the public’s best interest. |
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040 |
Gallagher |
Responds that this is a standard commonly used in public records to protect individuals. |
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048 |
Chair Burdick |
States that if someone is unhappy with the process, there are appeals available through the Department of Justice. |
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050 |
Gallagher |
Replies affirmatively. |
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054 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 947-3 amendments dated 4/26/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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056 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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057 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 947 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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059 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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069 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 947 and opens a work session on SB 495. |
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SB 495 – WORK SESSION |
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070 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 495 relating to allowing grandchildren and grandparents to recover in actions for a wrongful death. |
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073 |
Sen. Ringo |
States that John Powell representing the insurers do not object to this bill. |
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081 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 495 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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084 |
Sen. Beyer |
States his opposition. |
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Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 6-1-0 AYE: 6 - Prozanski, Ringo, Starr C., Walker, Whitsett, Burdick NAY: 1 - Beyer |
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089 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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091 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 495 and opens a public hearing on SB 568. |
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SB 568 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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092 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 568 relating to increasing fines and imposes suspension of driving privileges for a person who exceeds the speed limit or designated speed by more than 30 miles per hour or who drives 100 miles per hour or greater. |
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101 |
Daniel Swift |
State Trooper, Oregon State Police. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 568 (EXHIBIT J). |
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151 |
Swift |
Declares that new automobile technology has outpaced Oregon law. Cites a recent traffic stop where a driver was cited going 142 m.p.h. on Interstate 205 at 12:30 in the morning. |
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176 |
Chair Burdick |
Commends the witness on his testimony. Asks why 100 m.p.h. was chosen as the limit in the bill. |
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187 |
Swift |
Replies that the line must be drawn somewhere, and the 100 m.p.h. line is a clean line of demarcation; easy to remember. |
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197 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks if there are emergency conditions that would allow for excessive speeds. |
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203 |
Swift |
Responds that state first response units are safer and quicker than individuals who decide to drive excessive speeds to arrive at a destination. |
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222 |
Sen. Whitsett |
States that in eastern Oregon, response won’t arrive for more than 45 minutes in many situations. |
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338 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Declares that there are options available to the defendant to safeguard their choice to break one law in order to save the life of another individual (“Choice of Evils” plead). |
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249 |
Swift |
Stresses that there have been times where he has stopped individuals breaking speed laws who have been under extenuating circumstances (giving birth, injured, etc.) and he has yet to actually cite these people. |
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256 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks about those safeguards available to individuals who break the law under certain circumstances. |
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260 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Talks about the ‘Choice of Evils” defense available in these situations. |
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272 |
Sen. Beyer |
Cites a recent story involving a medical emergency that required excessive speeds in order to save lives. |
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287 |
Sen. Prozanski |
States that he would be amazed at the officer who would cite an individual for such a scenario. |
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318 |
Sen. Starr |
Discusses a family story relating to the issue of excessive speed as a necessity at times in extreme situations. |
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378 |
Sen. Starr |
Declares his conceptual support of the bill if the judge was offered some form of discretion. |
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386 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Explains the current drafting of the bill, and how it addresses these emergency purposes. |
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399 |
Sen. Ringo |
States that the “Choice of Evils” case would allow for these emergency situations. |
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418 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Reads the “Choice of Evils” act in current statute. |
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439 |
Swift |
Stresses that this is not a mandate for an officer to cite the driver. |
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462 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on SB 568. |
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SB 568 – WORK SESSION |
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470 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 568 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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476 |
Sen. Beyer |
Talks about his hesitance to support the section dealing with the 30 m.p.h. criteria. |
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TAPE 123, A |
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031 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Offers clarification on the effects of the bill. |
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042 |
Sen. Beyer |
Declares his opposition to the bill. |
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051 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Declares his support for the bill, but reserves the right to vote against it on the floor. |
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052 |
Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Prozanski, Ringo, Starr C., Whitsett, Burdick NAY: 1 - Beyer EXCUSED: 1 - Walker |
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057 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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058 |
Chair Burdick |
Accepts written testimony from Lorna Walker (EXHIBIT K). Closes the work session on SB 568 and adjourns the meeting at 3:05 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY