SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
May 11, 2005 Hearing Room 343
1:00 P.M. Tapes 133 – 134
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: William E. Taylor, Counsel
Joe O'Leary, Counsel
Heidi Moawad, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 306 – Work Session
SB 592 – Work Session
SB 424 – Public Hearing
HB 2141 – Public Hearing
HB 2139A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2222A – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 133, A |
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003 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:12 p.m. and opens a work session on SB 306. |
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SB 306 – WORK SESSION |
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005 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Introduces and describes the -2 and -3 amendments (EXHIBITS A & B). |
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027 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if the two amendments are in conflict. |
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029 |
Taylor |
Replies that they deal with different sections of the amendment and do not conflict with each other. |
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044 |
Paul Cosgrove |
Distilled Spirits Counsel of the United States. Submits testimony and testifies in support of the -2 amendment to SB 306 (EXHIBIT C). |
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082 |
Mark Nelson |
Anheuser-Busch. Submits a picture detailing a filter for impurities in carbon dioxide gas and testifies in support of SB 306 (EXHIBIT D). |
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105 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks how the filter works. |
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108 |
Nelson |
Details the method by which the filter purifies the carbon dioxide. |
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122 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Inquires if only Budweiser products will be purified. |
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123 |
Nelson |
Responds that the filter purifies other beers on the same tap. |
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156 |
John Stubenvoll |
Oregon Liquor Control Commission. Testifies in support of the amendments. |
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170 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 306-2 amendments dated 4/20/05. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Walker |
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172 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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173 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 306-3 amendments dated 5/11/05. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Walker |
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176 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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181 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 306 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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184 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks about the reasoning behind introducing this bill. |
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186 |
Chair Burdick |
Discusses the history of this bill, and the necessity in its passing. Talks about the term “gut & stuff.” |
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205 |
Sen. Beyer |
Clarifies the process of “gut & stuff.” |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Walker |
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211 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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215 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 306 and opens a work session on SB 592. |
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SB 592 – WORK SESSION |
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216 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 592 relating to not allowing consideration of reasonable and prudent factors for violating the basic speed rule if a person exceeds certain speeds on secondary highways. Introduces the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT E). |
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227 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Discusses the -1 amendment. Talks about the necessity behind the bill. |
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270 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about individuals who drive 15 miles per hour and how they cannot invoke the basic rule. |
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278 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Stresses that the bill is not ready due to the oversight addressed by Chair Burdick, and will continue to work on the amendments. |
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293 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 592 and opens a public hearing on SB 424. |
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SB 424 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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304 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Describes SB 424 relating to giving the court discretion in awarding temporary custody of parties’ children when the court issues restraining orders under the Family Abuse Prevention Act. Introduces and describes the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT F). Introduces written testimony from John L. Collins, presiding judge of the 25th Judicial District in Yamhill County (EXHIBIT G). |
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343 |
BeaLisa Sydlik |
Oregon Judicial Department. Testifies on the issue of SB 424. |
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380 |
Sydlik |
Comments on the concerns the judges have with the passage of this bill. |
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414 |
Sybil Hebb |
Oregon Law Center. Testifies on the issue of judicial discretion. |
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TAPE 134, A |
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018 |
Hebb |
Stresses the importance in not giving custody to individuals who might be violent towards the minor; advocates for judicial discretion in this matter. |
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051 |
Rebecca Gandy |
Oregon Alliance to End Violence against women. Testifies against SB 424. |
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066 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks for her opinion on possible options. |
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075 |
Gandy |
Talks about the lack of limitations or restraints on judicial discretion. |
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100 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires if the judges are making wrong decisions on a regular basis in these types of cases. |
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102 |
Gandy |
Responds that they don’t necessarily get it wrong so often, and describes her stance on the issue. |
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108 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Comments on the hazards when limiting the jurisdiction of the judge in any court case. |
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116 |
Gandy |
Stresses the need for parameters in any form of judicial discretion. |
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138 |
Mark Kirkmeier |
Legislative Assistant, Rep. Hansen. Reads testimony from Rep. Hansen in support of SB 424 (EXHIBIT H). |
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147 |
Clark Seeley |
Submits testimony and testifies in support of the -1 amendment for SB 424 (EXHIBIT I). |
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170 |
Bradd Swank |
Oregon Judicial Department. Testifies on the costs of expungement. |
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215 |
Swank |
Continues his discussion on the redaction of information and the difficulties they face in removing protected data from public access. |
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253 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Inquires about the fields currently being redacted and if certain information is protected: social security numbers, etc. |
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256 |
Swank |
Replies that he has spent his entire career protecting social security numbers from public access. |
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276 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks if there is a statute or rule that prohibits social security numbers from being accessed by the public. |
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280 |
Swank |
Responds that there currently is no specific policy that addresses this issue. |
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311 |
Hebb |
Submits a chart on the comparison of current criminal expunction process vs. the SB 424 -1 amendment proposed process and (EXHIBITS J & L). Declares their opposition to the -1 amendment. |
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362 |
Gandy |
Declares their opposition to the -1 amendment. |
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400 |
Chair Burdick |
Introduces written testimony from Jim Whinston in support of SB 424 (EXHIBIT P). Closes the public hearing on SB 424 and opens a public hearing on HB 2141. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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Rick L. Scheetz |
Portland, OR. Submits written testimony in support of SB 424 (EXHIBIT T). |
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HB 2141 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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410 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2141 relating to modifying the provisions that allow the Department of Corrections and the Oregon Youth Authority to transfer persons committed to their custody to the state mental hospital for evaluation and treatment. Introduces the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT M). |
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440 |
Rep. Chip Shields |
House District 43. Submits testimony and testifies in opposition to HB 2141 (EXHIBIT K). |
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490 |
Rep. Shields |
Discusses the protections, or lack thereof, for young offenders. |
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TAPE 133, B |
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038 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if the -2 amendment incorporates the -1 amendment. |
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040 |
Rep. Shields |
Replies that he believes it does. |
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055 |
Arthur Tolan |
Department of Corrections. Testifies in support of HB 2141. |
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068 |
Debbie Rios |
Oregon Youth Authority. Testifies in support of HB 2141. |
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071 |
Marvin Fickle |
Oregon State Hospital. Testifies in a neutral stance on HB 2141. |
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089 |
Mary Botkin |
American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees. Testifies in support of HB 2141. |
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126 |
Bob Joondeph |
Oregon Advocacy Center. Submits testimony and testifies in support the -2 amendment (EXHIBIT N). |
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136 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2141 and opens a public hearing on HB 2139A. |
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HB 2139A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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140 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2139A relating to exempting unclaimed or abandoned tangible property of the Department of Corrections inmates from the Uniform Disposition of Unclaimed Property Act. |
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157 |
Stan Czerniak |
Assistant Director for Operations. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2139A (EXHIBIT O). |
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184 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks about the amendments to the bill. |
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188 |
Czerniak |
Replies that the amendments deal with intangible assets (telephone money remaining on a card, etc.). Talks about the system of accounts (phone account, etc.) that are “intangible” accounts. |
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213 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Expresses his confusion why such money was not returned to the inmate previously. |
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216 |
Czerniak |
Talks about why the money in these intangible accounts did not go to the inmate. |
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242 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires what happens to these objects (socks, etc.) that are left behind by inmates. |
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245 |
Czerniak |
States that they usually have the option to donate these items to charity in some cases, and destroy them in others (used socks are not so usable by many other people). |
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270 |
Janet Holman |
Assistant Director, Administration and Finance, Department of State Lands. |
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274 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks about the ‘friendly amendment” discussed earlier. |
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276 |
Janet Holman |
Talks about the differentiation between tangible and intangible accounts. Goes on to comment on the unclaimed property fund. |
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307 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Stresses that he believes the money can be easily returned to the individual. |
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320 |
Czerniak |
Discusses the situations behind the return of money to an inmate in these cases. |
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339 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2139A. |
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HB 2139A – WORK SESSION |
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348 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2139A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Walker |
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354 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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363 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2139A and opens a public hearing on HB 2222A. |
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HB 2222A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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366 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Describes HB 2222A relating to providing that the Department of Justice has a lien upon certain judgments, settlements, and compromises obtained by a person who received awards of compensation from the department, or on whose behalf compensation was paid by the department, for a compensable crime. |
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409 |
Jason Barber |
Assistant Director, Crime Victims’ Assistance Section, Department of Justice. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2222A (EXHIBIT Q). |
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TAPE 134, B |
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015 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Wonders how much money, annually, they are not being reimbursed for. |
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017 |
Barber |
States that he is not sure, but will get the committee that information. |
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025 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires about the signed documents by the defendant (lien); shouldn’t the department be able to seek litigation against these individuals. |
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030 |
Barber |
Replies that they could, but that HB 2222A seeks to go around costly litigation. |
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063 |
Michael Grant |
Assistant Attorney General, Oregon Department of Justice. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2222A (EXHIBIT R). Stresses that this bill does not seek to increase any monetary obligations from the victim. |
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099 |
Grant |
Talks about the lack a third party defendant’s obligation to pay the victim’s crime victims’ assistance payments. |
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120 |
Grant |
Discusses the cost to Crime Victims’ United in legal battles over the last few years trying to recover owed payments from victims. |
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152 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if the third party is required to pay the victims’ assistance funds. |
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157 |
Grant |
Comments on the lien process for third party members paying back the victims’ assistance funds. |
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179 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires how these liens would stack up, as far as priority, against other liens. |
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182 |
Grant |
Talks about the different priorities for liens facing a victim (medical fees, lawyer fees, etc.) |
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200 |
Sen. Ringo |
Addresses the prioritizing of medical liens. Asks if these cases deal with clear liability or is there occasions of questionable liability. |
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225 |
Barber |
Discusses the issue of liability in these cases: 95-98% clear liability. |
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237 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires about the difficulties in collecting the money from third party offenders. Questions the perpetrator’s disclosure of withheld assets. |
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243 |
Grant |
Replies that this is always an issue. Goes on to talk about the equal priority of medical services lien. |
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268 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2222A and opens a work session on SB 306. |
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SB 306 – WORK SESSION |
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269 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks for reconsideration of the vote of SB 306. |
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275 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which SB 306 is moved to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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281 |
Chair Burdick |
States that the beer community is divided on this issue. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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292 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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295 |
Chair Burdick |
Moves SB 306 to Monday, May 16, 2005. |
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298 |
Chair Burdick |
Adjourns the meeting at 2:55 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY