SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
May 12, 2005 Hearing Room 343
1:00 P.M. Tapes 135 - 136
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: William E. Taylor, Counsel
Joe O'Leary, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 301 – Work Session
SB 528 – Work Session
SB 1050 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 135, A |
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003 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:13 p.m. and opens a work session on SB 301. |
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SB 301 – WORK SESSION |
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007 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Describes SB 301 relating to specifying the circumstances under which a peace officer and corrections officer may use deadly physical force. Introduces and describes the -2 amendment (EXHIBIT A). |
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043 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks about the technical changes made in section 12 of the -2 amendment. |
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050 |
O’Leary |
Offers information on the grand jury proceedings, and the technical changes made to the process in the -2 amendment. |
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062 |
Pete Shepherd |
Deputy Attorney General. Submits testimony and agrees with Counsel on their assessment of the changes made with the -2 amendment (EXHIBIT B). Introduces written testimony from Multnomah County District Attorney Michael D. Schrunk in support of the -2 amendment to SB 301 (EXHIBIT E). |
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068 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about the representatives that formed this work group on the -2 amendment. |
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071 |
Shepherd |
Replies with information on the makeup of the work group. |
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088 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about the blank area in the bill dealing with the funds available for this project. |
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090 |
Shepherd |
Talks about the necessity of retaining the state as a financial partner in addressing this problem. Goes on to talk about the commentary dealing with the effects of the bill (Exhibit B). |
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120 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks for a summarization of the changes made with the -1 and -2 amendments. |
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121 |
Shepherd |
Replies with information on the changes between the -1 and -2 amendments. Discusses the amount and variety of the leave offered to officers after an injury or event resulting from the firing of a weapon or other aggravated occurrence. |
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161 |
Shepherd |
Stresses a conceptual difference between the -1 and -2 amendments: the effort must be a combined effort between the state and local jurisdictions. |
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196 |
Shepherd |
Declares that District Attorney John Foote from Clackamas County authorized Mr. Shepherd to offer his support for this bill. |
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215 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 301 and opens a work session on SB 528. |
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SB 528 – WORK SESSION |
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222 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Introduces and describes the -8 and -9 amendments (EXHIBITS C & D). |
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275 |
Chair Burdick |
Describes the term “retroactive” and how it would not apply to cases that have exhausted all other measures, only to those cases that are currently being challenged. |
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311 |
Brad Berry |
Yamhill County District Attorney. Testifies on the amount of jurors needed for an enhanced sentence. |
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328 |
O’Leary |
Agrees with the assessment, and stresses that this points out an earlier flaw with the statutes. States that the same amount of jurors, and the same specific jurors, must agree on an enhancement sentence that earlier convicted the defendant. |
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368 |
Berry |
Discusses the enhancement factor requirements, from a jury standpoint. |
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408 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Clarifies that the jurors who originally made the verdict must also be the same jurors who approve an enhancement factor. |
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425 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires if the jurors who might vote not-guilty would be released from jury sentencing. |
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435 |
Berry |
Replies that they would not, but their vote would not truly count after that. Describes the scenario resulting from allowing jurors |
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466 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks about a problem with segregating the jury in such a way. |
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TAPE 136, A |
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024 |
Chair Burdick |
States that there is a chance that a juror convinced of guilt might not believe in an aggravated verdict. |
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032 |
O’Leary |
Talks about the situation where 11 of the 12 jurors vote guilty, and then 10 of the 11 must vote for the enhancement factor. |
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039 |
Berry |
Responds in the affirmative. |
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043 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if all trials will have that threshold and if the same jurors must vote for both factors (guilty and enhancement factor). |
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047 |
Berry |
Stresses that in a six person jury, a unanimous verdict is required. |
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059 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks about the issue of retroactivity. |
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061 |
Berry |
Offers his support of the -9 amendment. Talks about the need for this procedure in allowing for more efficient trials. |
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105 |
Berry |
Discusses the constitutionality of this bill and the ramifications of its passage. |
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133 |
Chair Burdick |
Brings up the issue of techniques and methods that might conflict with future legislation. |
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147 |
Tim Sylwester |
Department of Justice, Criminal Justice Division. Testifies on the issue of post conviction cases resulting from the passage of these types of bills. Talks about a recent supreme court case that addresses the issue of individuals citing bad representation from counsel for not anticipating future court decisions. |
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198 |
Sylwester |
Discusses the people most affected by this legislation would be the most offensive individuals; those who have accrued the longest sentences for the most heinous crimes (aggravated crimes). |
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230 |
Sylwester |
Addresses the double jeopardy clause as a possible use for further litigations (Court of Appeals: State of Oregon vs. Sawatzky). |
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248 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires if there are any constitutional conflicts resulting from this future decision. |
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252 |
Sylwester |
Replies that he does not believe there will be. |
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264 |
Chuck French |
Deputy District Attorney, Multnomah County. Talks about the offenders who have aggravated sentences: violent offenders, sexually dangerous offenders, etc. |
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320 |
French |
Discusses the issue of financial impact on the correctional divisions. Stresses that there would be little to no cost, and possibly less, towards the Department of Corrections. States that these individuals would only get less sentencing by bringing their cases to the courts: less time in prison and therefore lower costs. |
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375 |
French |
Declares that the financial impact would be little to none for the court system. Acknowledges that there might be a few extra cases brought against the department. |
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403 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if the expo facto or double jeopardy problems will present a future litigation challenge for the state. |
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413 |
Sylwester |
Talks about the expo facto and double jeopardy issues facing the Department of Justice; stresses that this issue is not an expo facto or double jeopardy problem. |
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449 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 528 and opens a work session on SB 301. |
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SB 301 – WORK SESSION |
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463 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 301-2 amendments dated 5/6/05. |
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464 |
Sen. Whitsett |
States that he hasn’t had the time to address the testimony and alterations made relating to the amendments. |
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TAPE 135, B |
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Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 5-2-0 AYE: 5 - Prozanski, Ringo, Starr C., Walker, Burdick NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett |
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027 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. |
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028 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 301 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Senate Budget Committee. |
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034 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Talks about his current support for the bill, but hesitates to fully support the bill until he hears from law enforcement in his district. |
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Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 5-2-0 AYE: 5 - Prozanski, Ringo, Starr C., Walker, Burdick NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett |
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051 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. |
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053 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 301 and opens a work session on SB 528. |
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SB 528 – WORK SESSION |
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064 |
Peter Gartlan |
Chief Defender, Legal Services Division, Office of Public Defense Services. Submits testimony and testifies in opposition to the retroactivity clause in SB 528 (EXHIBIT F). |
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120 |
Gartlan |
Talks about the two court of appeals cases that have dealt with dangerous offenders (Measure 11 offenders). States that 120 cases are in their office that deal with the recent Blakely Supreme Court case. |
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157 |
Gregory Silver |
Chief Attorney, Metropolitan Public Defender Services. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 528, but stresses their opposition to the retroactivity clause (EXHIBIT G). |
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195 |
Silver |
Discusses the challenges facing the retroactivity clause if it is adopted. Brings up the issue of the double jeopardy and expo facto clauses being used against the retroactivity clause. |
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245 |
Silver |
Talks about how anything that increases the sentence beyond what the sentencing guidelines grid allow is part of the actual crime, and they have already been convicted of this. |
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267 |
Silver |
Comments on the State of Oregon vs. Sawatzky court case where a woman was upward departed from the presumptive sentencing. |
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296 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks about consecutive sentences in the Sawatzky case. |
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298 |
Silver |
Responds with information on the consecutive sentencing in the Sawatzky case. |
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340 |
Silver |
Continues his discussion on the State of Oregon vs. Sawatzky case. |
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364 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about statutory authorization in influencing Supreme Court decisions. |
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368 |
Silver |
Declares that he doesn’t know if that would influence the Supreme Court’s decision on such an issue. |
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410 |
Sen. Walker |
Wonders what may occur if the Supreme Court refuses to accept the petition of such a case. |
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421 |
Silver |
Talks about how the judges who face the cases themselves would take it upon themselves to adjudicate the issue. |
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TAPE 136, B |
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009 |
Michael Marcus |
Circuit Court Judge, Multnomah County. Submits testimony and testifies on the issue of the retroactivity clause in the amendments for SB 528 (EXHIBIT H). |
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063 |
Marcus |
Talks about the financial impact resulting from this decision. States that the upward departures are not entirely focused on the most dangerous offenders. |
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104 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about an expo facto clause being in conflict with this clause. |
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110 |
Marcus |
Addresses the issue of expo facto. |
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117 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks about a statute requiring or allowing retroactive sentencing enhancement would influence the Oregon Supreme Court’s decision on the actual constitutionality of such a policy. |
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122 |
Marcus |
Stresses that the legislation should have no impact on the decisions of the Supreme Court dealing with constitutionality. |
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138 |
Nancy Miller |
Deputy State Court Administrator. Testifies in a neutral stance on the issue of retroactivity. Addresses the fiscal impact resulting from the passage of the bill. Expresses the uncertainties facing the panel today: how many of the decisions they face are based on “ifs” and “possibilities.” |
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180 |
Miller |
Explains that with a minimum amount of cases, the court system would exceed their allotted funds. |
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197 |
Chair Burdick |
Appreciates the work by the panel witnesses on this issue. Closes the work session on SB 528 and opens a public hearing on SB 1050. |
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SB 1050 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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207 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 1050 relating to modifying the requirements for the eligibility of a child 18 years of age or older and under 21 years of age to receive child support while attending school. Introduces the -2 amendment (EXHIBIT I). |
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227 |
Hans Bernard |
Legislative Aide, Sen. Brown. Testifies in support of SB 1050. Reads a letter from Judge Keith Raines in support of SB 1050 (EXHIBIT J). |
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276 |
Ronelle Shankle |
Project and Legislative Liaison for the Attorney General. Submits a testimony packet, a hand-engrossed version of SB 1050 with the -2 amendment, and written testimony from Concetta F. Schwesinger, the Oregon District Attorneys Association Child Support Program Liaison (EXHIBITS K – M). |
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314 |
Celia Nunez |
Policy Analyst, Senate Majority Office. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 1050 (EXHIBIT N). |
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355 |
Nunez |
Continues reading testimony in support of SB 1050 (Exhibit N). |
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387 |
Shani Fuller |
Department of Justice, Oregon Child Support Program. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 1050 and the -2 amendment (EXHIBIT O). Discusses the proposed -3 amendment. |
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413 |
Karen Berkowitz |
Oregon Law Center. Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 1050 (EXHIBIT P). |
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477 |
William E. Taylor |
Asks if she is proposing an amendment. |
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480 |
Berkowitz |
Replies that she is not. |
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484 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 1050 and adjourns the meeting at 3:05 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY