SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
May 24, 2005 Hearing Room 343
1:00 P.M. Tapes 143 - 145
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Charlie Ringo
STAFF PRESENT: Heidi Moawad, Counsel
Sam Sears, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2050A – Public Hearing
HB 2185 – Public Hearing
HB 2225 – Work Session
HB 2213A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2545A – Work Session
HB 2547A – Work Session
HB 2548 – Work Session
HB 3157A – Work Session
HB 2634A – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 143, A |
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002 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:12 p.m. and opens a public hearing on HB 2050A. |
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HB 2050A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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008 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2050A relating to requiring, as a condition of probation, parole, or post-prison supervision, that certain persons cannot reside within three miles of a victim of a crime if the victim requests an imposition of the condition. |
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027 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about judicial discretion in counties that have less than 130,000 residents. |
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029 |
Moawad |
Replies that Michael Selvaggio, legislative aide for Sen. Ringo, sponsor of the bill, can best answer any inquiries concerning the bill. |
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040 |
Michael Selvaggio |
Legislative Aide, Sen. Charlie Ringo. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2050A (EXHIBIT A). |
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075 |
Selvaggio |
Details the reasoning behind the exemption concerning counties under 130,000 residents. |
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073 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Inquires why the number 130,000 was selected. |
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075 |
Selvaggio |
Comments on the choice to provide an exemption to counties with less than 130,000 residents: anything less would cause a possible constitutional conflict. |
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105 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks how the distance is measured (“as the crow flies” or driving). |
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106 |
Selvaggio |
Replies that it is based as “the crow flies”: standard distance. States that they desired to apply this bill only to the more populous counties, the most developed. |
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122 |
Chair Burdick |
Stresses that the bill would only apply to the counties listed in his testimony: Clackamas, Deschutes, Jackson, Lane, Marion, Multnomah, and Washington. |
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123 |
Selvaggio |
Replies that this is correct. |
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130 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Talks about how current blue book estimates would place some of those counties under the 130,000 exemptions. Comments on how this doesn’t apply to rural Oregon. |
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146 |
Selvaggio |
Declares that the constitutional conflict dictated their limitations to counties with less than 130,000 residents. States that he would like this to apply to rural Oregon, but they need to address the constitutional issue. |
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172 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Brings up an issue with the drafting language of the bill dealing with offenders under the age of 18 who are making decisions that, because of this law, impacts them greatly: what about parental authority with these issues. |
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188 |
Moawad |
Talks about the situation with representatives for under-age victims. |
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205 |
Chair Burdick |
Offers a conflict that may exist between parents who wish one thing and the District Attorney who believes there is a danger in the parents’ choice and makes the choice for the family. |
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210 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Discusses the problems dealing with representing a child. |
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232 |
Selvaggio |
Stresses that cases of statutory rape (17 year old girl, 19 year old boy; the parents of the girl want to arbitrarily punish the boy) were heavily discussed with this bill. |
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242 |
Chair Burdick |
Talks about the cases involving underage children as opposed to adults. |
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263 |
Moawad |
Replies that she will work with Mr. Selvaggio to address these issues. |
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296 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks why, if the judges can place these offenders in areas closer than three miles without conflicting with the constitution, they would need a bill fixing an issue that doesn’t exist. |
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319 |
Selvaggio |
Replies with information on the need for the bill; trying to fill all the cracks in current law. Clarifies the constitutional conflict they sought to circumvent with this bill. |
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352 |
Chair Burdick |
Wonders about the smaller radius for rural counties. |
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361 |
Selvaggio |
Responds that it was considered. |
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382 |
Jeff Wood |
Sergeant, Parole and Probation Division, Marion County Sheriff’s Office. Submits testimony and testifies in opposition to HB 2050A (EXHIBIT B). Declares his support for the concept for the bill, but stresses that the fiscal impact would be too great to realistically initiate. |
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436 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires why such complicated and expensive methods are needed in these cases. |
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451 |
Wood |
Replies that many offenders have multiple victims, and there are numerous criteria that increase the cost for so many victims. |
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TAPE 144, A |
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022 |
Sen. Walker |
States that a recent bill passed in another session talked about the illegality of shifting these costs to the local counties. Desires a fiscal impact from Legislative Fiscal. |
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032 |
Moawad |
Addresses the fiscal impact from Legislative Fiscal: minimal to state or local agencies. |
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045 |
Moawad |
States that these figures were not discussed in front of the House Judiciary Committee. |
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051 |
Sen. Walker |
Declares that an inquisition to Legislative Fiscal on these new figures would be needed. |
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071 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks for continued work on this bill. States that it seems like there are enough resources on-line or otherwise that would make their jobs easier. |
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078 |
Wood |
States that many resources online would not be secure or updated regularly: their own system would be secure and valid. |
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093 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Addresses the past bill on unfunded mandates. |
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126 |
Kelly Skye |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies on the implementation problems with this bill. Brings up the issue that the victim’s address is confidential during this process. |
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148 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires if there would be a problem with the victim knowing where the offender lives. |
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150 |
Skye |
Replies that she doesn’t know if that information is confidential, so she cannot address that question. |
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162 |
Sen. Walker |
Talks about the sex offender registry. Discusses the problems of where this sex offender is going to live. |
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183 |
Skye |
Comments on several issues with the implementation of the bill. |
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216 |
Sen. Walker |
Details the difficulty in transitional housing. |
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241 |
Sen. Beyer |
Addresses Article 11, section 15 of the Oregon Constitution dealing with this issue. |
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249 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Brings up an issue of the victim moving within those three miles of the offender. |
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256 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2050A and opens a public hearing on HB 2185. |
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HB 2185 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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244 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2185 relating to increasing the period of time a person is ineligible to receive a hardship permit if a person refused to take a breath or blood test and a person previously had been charged with the offense of driving while under the influence of intoxicants. |
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289 |
Vinita Howard |
Submits written testimony and testifies in support of HB 2185 (EXHIBIT C). Introduces written testimony from Anne Pratt and Lloyd Clodfelter (EXHIBITS D & E). |
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355 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks about the parameters for the statute. |
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370 |
Howard |
Replies with information on the legal parameters for the bill and statute relating to taking the breath or blood test. |
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387 |
Chair Burdick |
Clarifies the charges resulting from the bill. |
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393 |
Sen. Prozanski |
States that the bill has only minor changes in statute. Inquires about a person who was charged before, and didn’t take the test, would this bill be triggered without a conviction. |
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432 |
Howard |
Addresses the concept of the implied consent law. |
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TAPE 143, B |
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007 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Comments on enhanced suspension periods being altered by this bill; very little other statutory changes result from this bill. |
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033 |
Moawad |
Declares that, if a person successfully completed their diversion program, and another offense occurred within these five years, they would be covered by this new bill. |
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059 |
Troy Costales |
Oregon Department of Transportation. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2185 (EXHIBIT F). Talks about the exemptions facing a citizen if a driving license was taken away: a hardship permit. |
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096 |
Kelly Skye |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies in opposition to HB 2185. Declares that there is already an incentive (a law with repercussions) to take the blood/breath test. |
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110 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks if this would keep people from getting licenses. |
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112 |
Skye |
Replies that it would keep people from getting a hardship permit. |
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117 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Brings up the issue of enhancing the penalties for refusing to take the blood/breath test on a second offense. |
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136 |
Moawad |
Inquires about the unconstitutionality of forcing the blood/breath test. |
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139 |
Skye |
Responds that the particular judge on that case made the judgment due to a double jeopardy clause and dismissed the offense. |
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153 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks if that case was up for appeal and when it occurred. |
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155 |
Moawad |
Addresses the history of this particular case. |
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174 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2185 and opens a work session on HB 2225. |
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HB 2225 – WORK SESSION |
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179 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2225 relating to establishing a standard of review for appeals from judgment in a violation proceeding. |
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195 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2225 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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200 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks about the appellate court judges’ opinions on this bill. |
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203 |
Moawad |
States that she is not aware of any judges having an opinion about this bill. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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236 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WHITSETT will lead discussion on the floor. |
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241 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2225 and opens a public hearing on HB 2213. |
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HB 2213A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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245 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2213A relating to declaring state policy regarding spousal support obligations. |
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264 |
Ronelle Shankle |
Department of Justice. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2213A (EXHIBIT G) |
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297 |
Shani Fuller |
Oregon Child Support Program. Testifies in support of HB 2213A. Addresses a possible conflict in current statute that this bill seeks to fix. |
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330 |
Fuller |
Discusses the amendment that was enacted by the House. |
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356 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks how much of the caseload falls into the low-income category. |
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358 |
Fuller |
Replies that around 280 cases fall under this criteria. |
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363 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires how they are able to give certain protections to sections of the populace (low-income) that are not available to all citizens. |
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372 |
Shankle |
Offers information on those individuals who require state assistance (the threshold the state uses). |
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391 |
Sam Sears |
Addresses the class of individuals who would be segregated by this bill; wealth is the criteria, and it is not a protected class. |
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437 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Talks about the discriminatory stature of separating classes. |
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447 |
Shankle |
Declares that there might be a time where the state could provide these services to a broader base. |
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463 |
Loralee McKee |
Lane County District Attorney’s Office. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2213A (EXHIBIT H). |
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TAPE 144, B |
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032 |
McKee |
Details a story of spousal support obligations that addresses the conflicts they seek to fix. |
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058 |
McKee |
Talks about another spousal support case that fell into the problems this bill attempts to fix. |
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101 |
McKee |
Stresses that this bill is not “anti-spousal support,” but rather attempts to use the department’s limited resources to the best of their ability. |
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107 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires if there are other legal remedies through the judicial process available. |
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110 |
Shankle |
Replies yes. |
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113 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires who the “administrator” is in the bill on lines 8 and 9. |
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118 |
Shankle |
Responds that the person is the administrator of the child support services. |
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123 |
Fuller |
States that whenever they provide child support services, they are required to provide other spousal support services that require administration. |
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139 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2213A. |
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HB 2213A – WORK SESSION |
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150 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2213A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Whitsett |
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153 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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160 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2213A and opens a work session on HB 2545A. |
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HB 2545A – WORK SESSION |
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162 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2545A, which allows a public body, in order to comply with request for disclosure of public records, to establish a fee to reimburse the public body for time spent by attorney to review records, redact material from records or segregate records into exempt and nonexempt records. |
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172 |
Chair Burdick |
Comments on previous testimony. |
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178 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2545A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Whitsett |
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181 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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183 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes work session on HB 2545A. Opens a work session on HB 2547. |
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HB 2547A – WORK SESSION |
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184 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2547A, which increases the value of estate for which a small estate affidavit may be filed. |
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200 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2547 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Whitsett |
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204 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. STARR will lead discussion on the floor. |
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206 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes work session on HB 2547. Opens a work session on HB 2548. |
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HB 2548 – WORK SESSION |
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208 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2548, which mandates arbitration in circuit court proceedings in which $50,000 or less is involved. |
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217 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2548 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Whitsett |
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219 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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221 |
Burdick |
Closes work session on HB 2548. Opens a work session on HB 3157A. |
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HB 3157A – WORK SESSION |
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222 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 3157A, which provides that the duty of a county court or board of county commissioners to inspect the local correctional facilities is discretionary for the facilities not operated by the county. |
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232 |
Prozanski |
Expresses his reservations, but agrees with the checks and balances. |
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242 |
Walker |
Comments on the 58-1-0 vote on the House. |
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248 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 3157A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Whitsett |
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251 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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253 |
Burdick |
Opens a public hearing on HB 2634 A. |
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HB 2634A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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256 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2634A, which establishes pleading requirements for actions asserting a professional negligence against real estate licenses. |
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267 |
Jana Jarvis |
Government Affairs Director, Oregon Association of Realtors. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT I) and testifies in support of HB 2634A. |
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279 |
Matt Farmer |
Associate General Counsel, Oregon Association of Realtors. Testifies in support of HB 2634 A. |
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327 |
Emily Cedarleaf |
Executive Director, Multifamily Housing Council of Oregon. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J) and testifies in opposition to HB 2634A. |
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TAPE 145, A |
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010 |
Walker |
Questions whether Ms. Cedarleaf is a lawyer. |
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012 |
Cedarleaf |
Explains her occupation and involvement with this issue. |
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018 |
Walker |
Asks about the drafting of the bill. |
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021 |
Cedarleaf |
Explains how difficult it is to research in a vacuum. Talks about the drafting of the bill. |
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030 |
Rep. Bob Ackerman |
House District 13. Testifies in support of HB 2634A. Discusses malpractice claims. |
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066 |
Walker |
Comments on “tort reform.” Expresses her support for HB 2634A. |
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072 |
Prozanski |
Inquires about the notarized statement, and if the individual is disclosed. |
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075 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Responds that he does not think so, and argues that he believes it requires a notification statement. |
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083 |
Burdick |
Closes public hearing on HB 2634A. Adjourns the meeting at 3:08 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY