SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
June 01, 2005 Hearing Room 343
1:00 P.M. Tapes 152 - 153
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
STAFF PRESENT: Joe O'Leary, Counsel
Heidi Moawad, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2977 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2416A – Work Session
SB 1047 – Work Session
HB 2360 – Public Hearing
HB 2144 – Work Session
HB 2299 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 152, A |
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002 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:25 p.m. and opens a public hearing on HB 2977. |
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HB 2977 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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005 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2977 relating to establishing the Law Enforcement Medal of Honor. |
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014 |
Dan Swift |
Oregon State Police Officers Association. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2977 (EXHIBIT A). |
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033 |
Ken Johnson |
Police Chief, Fairview, Oregon State Police Officers Association. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2977 (EXHIBIT B). |
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049 |
Sen. Walker |
Wonders who would award the medals, and how they would fund this honor. |
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055 |
Johnson |
Replies that they would suggest to the Governor who should receive the bill and private donations would support the program. |
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068 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2977. |
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HB 2977 – WORK SESSION |
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071 |
Sen. Walker |
MOTION: Moves HB 2977 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Starr |
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074 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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076 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2977. |
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081 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of RECONSIDERING the vote on HB 2416A. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Starr |
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083 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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089 |
Chair Burdick |
Opens a work session on HB 2416A. |
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HB 2416A – WORK SESSION |
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090 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which HB 2416A was sent to the floor DO PASS. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Starr |
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093 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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096 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2416A-A2 amendments dated 5/31/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Starr |
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100 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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101 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves HB 2416A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Starr |
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103 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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105 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2416A and opens a work session on SB 1047. |
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SB 1047 – WORK SESSION |
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101 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Describes SB 1047 relating to creating the authority for the fatality review teams to review the records related to domestic violence fatalities for the purpose of preventing future fatalities. |
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142 |
Sen. Walker |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 1047-1 amendments dated 6/1/05. |
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145 |
Sen. Beyer |
Agrees with the intent with the bill, but has serious problems with the altering of the majority required to pass the issues from the committee. |
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179 |
Sybil Hebb |
Oregon Law Center. Addresses the changes discussed by Sen. Beyer. |
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221 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Inquires why the number for successfully passing an issue from the committee was chosen to be 3/5. |
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224 |
Hebb |
Declares that there is a certain arbitrariness to the choice, although it was suggested by several groups. |
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255 |
Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 4-2-1 AYE: 4 - Prozanski, Ringo, Walker, Burdick NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett EXCUSED: 1 - Starr C. |
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262 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. |
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265 |
Sen. Walker |
MOTION: Moves SB 1047 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Prozanski, Ringo, Walker, Whitsett, Burdick NAY: 1 - Beyer EXCUSED: 1 - Starr C. |
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274 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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279 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 1047 and opens a public hearing on HB 2360. |
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HB 2360 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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282 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2360 relating to imposing a fine and mandatory imprisonment for a person convicted of driving while under the influence of intoxicants if the person had a 0.20 percent or more by weight of alcohol in blood of the person at the time of the offense. |
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308 |
Brad Berry |
Yamhill County District Attorney. Testifies in support of HB 2360. |
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345 |
Berry |
Talks about the increased danger resulting from a higher blood alcohol level than 0.08 percent. |
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384 |
Gina Skinner |
Washington County District Attorney’s Office. Testifies in support of HB 2360. Stresses that these cases involving high levels of alcohol content are more frequent than you might imagine. In order to function at this level of intoxication in any fashion. |
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417 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks how common these high levels of intoxication are for first offenders. |
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421 |
Skinner |
Replies that it is not an uncommon occurrence. |
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TAPE 153, A |
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007 |
Chair Burdick |
Wonders how much alcohol you must consume to arrive at this level of intoxication. |
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012 |
Jeff Rost |
Forensic Supervisor, Oregon State Police. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2360 (EXHIBIT C). Addresses the question as to how much drinking must be done to arrive at certain levels of intoxication. |
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040 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Comments on the Mothers Against Drunk Driving program in the Eugene District Attorney’s Office that documented the lawyers drinking certain amounts of liquor in an hour, and the correlation to the blood alcohol percentage. |
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056 |
Berry |
Talks about the programs mentioned by Sen. Prozanski, and states that it is disconcerting to see the numbers relating to drunk driving. |
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070 |
Rost |
Stresses that the top 13% of the tests administered are in the range of 0.20 or above blood alcohol percentage. |
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083 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Discusses the propensity of those being tested at 0.17 or above are alcoholics/binge drinkers. |
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098 |
Rost |
Declares that this is the intent of the bill: getting the major drinkers off the road. States that the average blood alcohol content for those arrested for drinking while under the influence of intoxicants is 0.15 percent. |
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131 |
Skinner |
Talks about the different effects of the different types of alcohol. |
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147 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about jail space, and who is likely to walk if this bill passed. |
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149 |
Berry |
Comments on the jail space problem that many counties face. States that the individuals who have probation violations would be the most likely candidate to be released early to make room for these new offenders. |
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180 |
Sen. Ringo |
Raises his concern that treatment is what is needed for these people as opposed to just placing them in jail. |
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196 |
Berry |
Stresses that the individuals who are stealing cars, stereos, etc; rarely present as much danger to other drivers as those they would be placing in jail. |
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206 |
Sen. Ringo |
Agrees with that assessment, but stresses that we’re taking people who need treatment and placing them in jail, and those who need to be in jail are being released early. Asserts that they can always change the laws, but when does the state remain satisfied with the laws as they are and try to work within their limits. |
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221 |
Skinner |
Declares that they might never know when they are at that point, and talks about the graduation from minor offenses to major time in prison. Discusses the inconsistencies among the counties for the gradations of jail time for these offenders. |
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241 |
Sen. Ringo |
States that this bill deals with first time offenders. |
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246 |
Skinner |
Clarifies the effects of the bill: how the bill mainly deals with second or third time offenders. |
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263 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires why judicial discretion is disregarded. |
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268 |
Berry |
Addresses the earlier comment relating to the lack of consistency across the state, and increased judicial discretion would add to that. |
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275 |
Sen. Ringo |
Talks about how they should trust their judges to determine who should be in prison. |
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278 |
Berry |
Replies that the judges are part of the discussions on who would be released from the prisons to make room for these drunk drivers. |
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287 |
Sen. Ringo |
Expresses his reluctance to continually bring bill after bill increasing the penalties for drunk driving: does not believe that this type of prevention is the answer. |
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295 |
Moawad |
Comments on the discussion from the House Judiciary Committee on this bill. |
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303 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks what sanction is applied to the detainee when they refused a breath or blood test. |
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309 |
Berry |
Responds that an increased suspension of the license and a mandatory fine of $500 exist for refusing the breath or blood test. |
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318 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Wonders how many people would accept the breath test if they believed they might be above a 0.20 percentage if they only face a $500 fine as opposed to the $2500 fine if they blew above a 0.20 percentage. |
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325 |
Rost |
Explains many of these individuals would not believe they would blow such a blood alcohol level. |
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370 |
Rost |
Testifies on the fiscal aspect of this bill. Talks about the refusal to submit to a breath test: an administrative suspension of the individuals driving privileges. |
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415 |
Rost |
Talks about the cases where time has elapsed between the offense of driving under the influence and the administration of the breathalyzer test and how the prosecution has to prove that the blood alcohol was over the legal limit at the time of the offense. |
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TAPE 152, B |
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023 |
Sen. Walker |
Inquires about the fiscal statement for this bill. |
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028 |
Moawad |
Discusses the fiscal analysis: indeterminate as of yet. |
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054 |
Skinner |
Talks about how the cases involving such levels of intoxication are rarely sent to trial: the individuals know they are guilty. |
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060 |
Berry |
Comments on the desire of the District Attorney’s office to actively go after the individuals with the highest blood alcohol levels. |
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081 |
Vinita Howard |
Governor’s Advisory Committee on Driving Under the Influence of Intoxicants. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2360 (EXHIBIT D). |
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130 |
Ann Pratt |
Governor’s Advisory Committee on Driving Under the Influence of Intoxicants. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2360 (EXHIBIT E). |
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180 |
Bruce Pratt |
Crime Victims United. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2360 (EXHIBIT F). |
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230 |
B. Pratt |
Continues reading testimony in support of HB 2360 (Exhibit F). |
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263 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2360 and opens a work session on HB 2144. |
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HB 2144 – WORK SESSION |
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266 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2144 relating to modifying the conditions of probation for persons previously convicted of a sex offense. Introduces and discusses the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT G). |
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295 |
Kelly Skye |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies in a neutral position on the bill and the amendment. |
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311 |
Scott Taylor |
Department of Corrections. Testifies in hesitant support of HB 2144 with the -1 amendment: fully approves the original bill. |
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329 |
Sen. Walker |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2144-1 amendments dated 5/31/05. |
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331 |
Sen. Walker |
Talks about her stance on the bill. |
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366 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Comments on the effects of the -1 amendment. |
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369 |
Chair Burdick |
Clarifies the questions about the -1 amendment. |
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378 |
Sen. Walker |
Declares that there is a pattern among young people who commit sex offenses as children who then commit offenses as an adult. |
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400 |
Sen. Beyer |
States his preference for the original bill. Asks about the expunction of a juvenile record. |
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409 |
Moawad |
Replies that it would not be readily accessible in the future. |
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420 |
Sen. Prozanski |
States that he believes all sex offenses are normally able to be expunged, no matter the age. |
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435 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Talks about the treatment or program for the youth offenders. |
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TAPE 153, B |
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014 |
Moawad |
Discusses the resources being much taxed, and how a probation officer would not be throwing this onto an offense 30 years later. |
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026 |
Sen. Walker |
MOTION: WITHDRAWS the MOTION to ADOPT HB 2144-1 amendments dated 5/31/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Starr |
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274 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. |
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048 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2144 and opens a public hearing on HB 2299. |
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HB 2299 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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050 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2299 relating to requiring a person relieved of the duty to report as a sex offender to provide to the Department of State Police copy of the court order relieving the person of duty. Introduces and describes the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT H). |
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079 |
Dan Malin |
Oregon State Police. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2299 (EXHIBIT I). |
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119 |
Malin |
Talks about the registration requirements for convicted sex offenders in Oregon. |
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147 |
Malin |
Discusses the registered sex offenders who are signed up for University classes. |
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196 |
Lori Sattenspiel |
Oregon Community College Association. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2299 (EHXIBIT J). |
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210 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2299. Moves HB 2142A, HB 2297, HB 2361A to Thursday, June 2, 2005. Adjourns the meeting at 3:03 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY