SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
June 02, 2005 Hearing Room 343
1:00 P.M. Tapes 154 - 155
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Charlie Ringo
STAFF PRESENT: William E. Taylor, Counsel
Joe O'Leary, Counsel
Sam Sears, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 592 – Work Session
SB 1034 – Work Session
HB 2359A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2221B – Public Hearing
HB 2203 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2205A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2730A – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 154, A |
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003 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:12 p.m. and opens a work session on SB 592. |
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SB 592 – WORK SESSION |
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009 |
William E. Taylor |
Counsel. Describes SB 592 relating to not allowing consideration of reasonable and prudent factors for the violation of the basic speed rule if a person exceeds certain speeds on secondary highways. Introduces and describes the -2 amendment (EXHIBIT A). |
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015 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Discusses the need for the -2 amendment in lieu of the -1 amendment talked about at an earlier committee meeting. |
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034 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks why primary highways were not included in the bill and asks for a definition. |
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036 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Talks about the difference between a primary highway and secondary highway, and why they chose to include such a specification in the bill. |
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052 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires about a hypothetical situation involving driving above the suggested speed limit. |
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054 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Describes the court process, and the defense used in such cases. |
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084 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Comments on the removal of judicial discretion on these matters resulting from the passage of SB 592. |
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088 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Stresses that such a defense of “road conditions” could not be used by motorists to exceed the posted speed limit. |
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122 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Discusses the reasoning behind the bill; small towns requested the bill because of excessive speeding through their rural townships. |
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133 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 592-2 amendments dated 5/12/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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135 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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137 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 592 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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139 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Declares his hesitance to support the bill. |
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VOTE: 4-2-1 AYE: 4 - Prozanski, Starr C., Walker, Burdick NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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152 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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155 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 592 and opens a work session on SB 1034. |
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SB 1034 – WORK SESSION |
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158 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Describes SB 1034 relating to establishing criteria for a court to dismiss the commitment of a ward to the Department of Human Services. Introduces and describes the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT B). |
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172 |
Sen. Kate Brown |
Senate District 21. Testifies in support of SB 1034. |
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186 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 1034-1 amendments dated 5/23/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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188 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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190 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 1034 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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192 |
Sen. Beyer |
Desires clarification on the issue of the state retaining youths in foster care from the ages of 18 to 21. |
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202 |
Julie McFarlane |
Supervising Attorney, Juvenile Rights Project. Testifies in support of SB 1034. Clarifies the issue of youths remaining in foster care services from the age of 18 to 21. |
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212 |
Sen. Brown |
Stresses that there is a problem in Portland and other areas around the state with this issue (homeless youths). |
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225 |
Sen. Beyer |
Talks about the fiscal responsibilities that this bill would create for the state. |
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243 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Declares his hesitance to support the bill because of the age the state is allowing children to remain in foster care. |
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255 |
Sen. Brown |
Stresses that the children who might remain in foster care over the age of 18 are mainly those with developmental disabilities. |
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276 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires about where in the bill it talks about developmentally disabled adults. |
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285 |
McFarlane |
Argues that this bill does not particularly grant this ability; that particular rule has been in the Oregon statutes for several years (since 1959). |
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329 |
Sen. Brown |
States that the juvenile dependency program is severely lacking in dollars. |
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344 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires how many adult children may remain in foster care if this bill passes. |
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349 |
McFarlane |
Stresses that, under the bill, the child does not have to remain in foster care after the age of 18. |
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384 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about a fiscal impact statement. |
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392 |
O’Leary |
States that the bill does not have a fiscal. |
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Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 4-2-1 AYE: 4 - Prozanski, Starr C., Walker, Burdick NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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415 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BROWN will lead discussion on the floor. |
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423 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 1034 and opens a public hearing on HB 2359A. |
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HB 2359A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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426 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2359A relating to revising the laws governing judgments. |
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462 |
Gerald Watson |
Oregon Law Commission. Submits a study on the judgments work group and testifies in support of HB 2359A (EXHIBIT C). |
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TAPE 155, A |
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050 |
Watson |
Talks about the judgment documents being enhanced by passing this ill. Details the requirements of a separate judgment section dealing with a lien. |
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076 |
Dave Heynderickx |
Acting Legislative Counsel. Addresses the study introduced earlier relating to judgments (Exhibit C). |
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101 |
Heynderickx |
Talks about section 2 dealing with jurisdictional authority for the court of appeals. Goes on to discuss the different sections of the bill. |
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145 |
Heynderickx |
Talks about section 9 dealing with child support decisions. |
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175 |
Heynderickx |
Addresses section 21. |
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186 |
Bradd Swank |
Oregon Judicial Department. Testifies in support of HB 2359A. Discusses the differences sought after last session. |
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220 |
Swank |
Explains the theory that, for the vast majority of cases, they want a single judgment as opposed to extra, or special, judgments. |
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261 |
Swank |
Submits written testimony and testifies in support of HB 2359A (EXHIBIT D). |
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285 |
Sen. Walker |
Commends the witnesses on their work. |
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300 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about the retroactivity of the bill, especially the probate section of the bill. |
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308 |
Swank |
Addresses probate retroactivity in the bill. |
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345 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires about probate cases that has already been started, or perhaps have been going on for awhile (several years). |
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353 |
Heynderickx |
States that there are only a few such probate cases, and specific circumstance, where limited judgments can be used. |
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378 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks what occurs when probate cases have been closed and then re-opened because of new evidence. |
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383 |
Swank |
Talks about those situations where limited judgments may occur during probate proceedings. |
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419 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2359A. |
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HB 2359A – WORK SESSION |
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424 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2359A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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429 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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436 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2359A and opens a public hearing on HB 2221B. |
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HB 2221B – PUBLIC HEARING |
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441 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2221B relating to establishing a Child Abuse Multidisciplinary Intervention Program in the Department of Justice. |
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TAPE 154, B |
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023 |
Connie Gallagher |
Director, Crime Victims’ Assistance Section, Oregon Department of Justice. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2221B (EXHIBIT E). |
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056 |
Gallagher |
Gives a section by section description of HB 2221B. |
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095 |
Gallagher |
Continues reading her testimony in support of HB 2221B (Exhibit E). |
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108 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Wonders how the coordinated effort made by her organization over the past 15 years has not reduced the increasing amount of child abuse cases. |
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117 |
Gallagher |
Stresses the importance of multi-disciplinary teams in addressing the issue of child abuse. |
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133 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Comments on preventative methods needed for stopping child abuse cases. |
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143 |
Sen. Starr |
Asks about the times and occurrences when intervention was unnecessary and improper. |
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163 |
Gallagher |
Discusses the response systems available to different states that tackle the methods used to prevent and deal with child abuse cases. |
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187 |
Sen. Starr |
Wonders why the question, “What happened,” is not asked before actions are taken. |
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190 |
Gallagher |
Talks about the different protocols used by the different counties. |
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198 |
Micky Logan |
Assistant Attorney General. Stresses that the questions asked are more geared toward the Department of Human Services involvement in child abuse cases. |
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221 |
Sen. Starr |
Acknowledges the fact that there are far too many cases of child abuse, but stresses that there are too many cases mishandled by the Department of Human Services. |
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232 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires about the sanctions, if any, for personnel not following existing protocols. |
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238 |
Gallagher |
Talks about the eligibility being tied to the compliance for personnel. |
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248 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Wonders about personal accountability for personnel who do not follow existing protocols. |
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254 |
Logan |
Declares that the bill would have no authority over the position talked about, and that there is no law that she knows of that would automatically cost these agents their jobs if they did not follow protocol. |
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283 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about section 19 and 20 dealing with confidentiality. |
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294 |
Logan |
Addresses the inquiries raised by Sen. Beyer. |
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317 |
Chair Burdick |
Wonders if this would have any impact on records in an agency that were opened for public view after a child’s death. |
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321 |
Logan |
Replies that it would have no impact. |
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345 |
Dave Paul |
Clackamas County District Attorney’s Office, Oregon District Attorney’s Association. Testifies in support of HB 2221B. Stresses that only certain entities can release certain records under the Public Records Law. |
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371 |
Chair Burdick |
Talks about the possible interference of releasing information on a child’s death by passing this bill. |
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379 |
Logan |
Declares that this bill would not interfere with that provision. |
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388 |
Paul |
Testifies on the need for multi-disciplinary teams. |
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409 |
Kevin Dowling |
CARES Northwest. Testifies in support of HB 2221B. |
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TAPE 155, B |
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005 |
Dowling |
Talks about his organization and how they seek to help individuals suffering from child abuse. Cites an example of a recent child abuse case. |
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053 |
Dowling |
Stresses that they are not sure around 1/3 of the time that there was any abuse (around 1/3 of the time there was no abuse). |
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066 |
Chair Burdick |
Commends the organization, CARES, for their work in the community. |
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080 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2221 and moves SB 424, HB 2297, and HB 2361A to Monday, May 6, 2005. Opens a public hearing on HB 2203. |
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HB 2203 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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093 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2203 relating to allowing a state agency to adopt the Attorney General’s model rules on confidentiality of mediation communications without prior approval of the Governor. |
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110 |
Mike Niemeyer |
Oregon Department of Justice. Testifies in support of HB 2203. |
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120 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2203. |
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HB 2203 – WORK SESSION |
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124 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2203 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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127 |
Sen. Beyer |
Declares his opposition to the bill. |
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134 |
Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 4-2-1 AYE: 4 - Prozanski, Starr C., Walker, Burdick NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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137 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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139 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2203 and opens a public hearing on HB 2205A |
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HB 2205A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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142 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2205A relating to allowing a state agency to provide the services of an employee as mediator or facilitator to other agencies or the federal government, except in a mediation concerning collective bargaining. |
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152 |
Mike Niemeyer |
Oregon Department of Justice. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2203 (EXHIBIT F). |
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169 |
Frances Peterson |
Shared Neutrals Program. Testifies in support of HB 2205A. |
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201 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks for the success rates for this type of mediation program. |
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207 |
Peterson |
Replies that the mediation is successful around 90% of the time. |
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225 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires about how many cases they completed in 2004 with the 40 mediators. |
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227 |
Peterson |
Responds that they had 74 agencies with 40 different mediators. Stresses that mediation is a collateral duty and each mediator has another job. |
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238 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires about the Shared Neutrals Program history. |
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240 |
Peterson |
Describes how Shared Neutrals Program came about in the Pacific Northwest in 1996. |
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247 |
Niemeyer |
Stresses that there are two different programs being discussed, and how the bill would amalgamate those two groups/programs to be more efficient. |
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269 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks about the costs according to time lost. |
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271 |
Niemeyer |
Replies that there are agreements and disclosures involved with loaning a worker from one agency to another for a limited amount of time. |
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281 |
Peterson |
Addresses the expenses covered by the agency that requires the mediation services. |
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289 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about the training time required for these new mediators. |
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293 |
Niemeyer |
Replies that the majority of the mediators are already trained, and goes on to discuss the training available to those who are not already knowledgeable. |
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311 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires about if these mediators have any power to decide the case. |
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316 |
Niemeyer |
Responds no, they are mediators, not arbitrators. |
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327 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2205A. |
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HB 2205A – WORK SESSION |
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329 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2205A be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED recommendation. |
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334 |
Sen. Beyer |
Declares his hesitant support for the bill; outlines his problems with the fiscals involved with a bill of this kind. |
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371 |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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372 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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375 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2205A and opens a public hearing on HB 2730A. |
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HB 2730A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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377 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2730A relating to providing civil immunity for broadcasters participating in an Amber Plan. |
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386 |
Dave Fiskum |
Oregon Association of Broadcasters (OAB). Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2730A (EXHIBIT G). |
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446 |
Chair Burdick |
Commends the OAB in their work. |
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452 |
Bill Johnstone |
President and CEO, Oregon Association of Broadcasters. Testifies in support of HB 2730A and stresses that over 10 lives have been saved because of the Amber Alert program. |
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474 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2730A. Adjourns the meeting at 3:02 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY