SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
June 13, 2005 Hearing Room 343
3:00 P.M. Tapes 165 - 166
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: Bill Taylor, Counsel
Joe O’Leary, Counsel
Heidi Moawad, Counsel
Sam Sears, Counsel
Elizabeth Howe, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2518 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2499 – Public Hearing
HB 2359A – Work Session
SB 65 – Work Session
SB 1041 – Work Session
HB 2268A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2742A – Public Hearing
HB 2599A – Public Hearing
HB 2667 – Public Hearing
HB 2156 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 165, A |
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002 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:15 p.m. Opens a public hearing on HB 2518. |
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HB 2518A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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006 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2518A, which allows the Public Safety Memorial Fund Board to extend time for an applicant for benefits to file a request for reconsideration and for the board to notify the applicant of the board’s decision on reconsideration. |
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014 |
Rep. Mitch Greenlick |
House District 33. Testifies in support of HB 2518A, and explains the background of the bill. |
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041 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2518A. |
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HB 2518A – WORK SESSION |
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045 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2518A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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048 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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050 |
Chair Burdick |
Opens a public hearing on HB 2499. |
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HB 2499 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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052 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2499, which removes the requirement that certain children attending high school and receiving child support maintain the equivalent of a C average or better. |
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064 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Relates that Rep. Schaufler supports HB 2499, and that this bill may be included in a different bill. |
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077 |
Shani Fuller |
Oregon Child Support Program, Department of Justice. Testifies in a neutral stance on HB 2499 and relates that another bill encompasses this bill. |
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090 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about schools that have no grades; systems of pass or no pass. |
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092 |
Fuller |
Responds that passing is at least a C grade average. |
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096 |
Sybil Hebb |
Oregon Law Center. Testifies in support of HB 2499. |
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102 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about other bills working their way through the process with similar effects. |
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104 |
Fuller |
Relates that SB 1050 is the other bill being considered that encompasses the content on HB 2499. |
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109 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Comments on SB 1050. |
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112 |
Chair Burdick |
States that she will wait on the bill. Closes public hearing on HB 2499. Opens a work session to reconsider the vote on HB 2359 A. |
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HB 2359 A – WORK SESSION |
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120 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of reconsidering the vote on HB 2359A. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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128 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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130 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which HB 2359A was sent to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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137 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Explains that the bill has conflict amendments. Introduces the –A2 amendment (EXHIBIT I). |
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138 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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139 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2359A-A2 amendments dated 6/6/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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143 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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145 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2359A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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149 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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151 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes work session on HB 2359A and opens a work session on SB 65. |
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SB 65 – WORK SESSION |
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155 |
Bill Taylor |
Counsel. Provides background on SB 65, which authorizes the Department of Public Safety Standards and Training to impose a civil penalty on public safety agencies for the violation of statutes prohibiting the employment of uncertified employees. Introduces the -3 amendment (EXHIBIT H). |
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169 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Comments that the bill may make it difficult for small police agencies to work effectively and fund the training (small, rural communities). Suggests that an under trained officer is better than none at all. Expresses opposition to the bill. |
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182 |
John Minnis |
Director, Department of Public Safety Standards and Training (DPSST). Comments on the vicarious liability of an officer who is under trained or not certified not being someone a city, small or large, wants in their jurisdiction. |
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201 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Suggests that small jurisdiction may not be able to afford these certifications. |
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208 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Inquires how the fine will be figured. |
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216 |
Minnis |
Responds that the intent of the agency is to get organizations to comply, not to hammer down on police departments. Relates that a private agency has the greatest compliance issue; it is infrequent. |
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243 |
Sen. Starr |
Comments on the small communities that contract with other jurisdictions to find full-time trained officers. Inquires if this method is commonly employed. |
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250 |
Minnis |
Responds affirmatively. |
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258 |
Sen. Beyer |
Comments on the private security force; the bill speaks of public safety. |
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261 |
Minnis |
Describes an instance with a private security force that comes out of the public safety domain. |
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270 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires if the DPSST has the authority to police private, but not public, security. |
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273 |
Minnis |
Responds affirmatively. |
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279 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 65-3 amendments dated 3/17/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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284 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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285 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 65 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 4-2-1 AYE: 4 - Prozanski, Starr C., Walker, Burdick NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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296 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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299 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on SB 65 and opens a work session on SB 1041. |
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SB 1041 – WORK SESSION |
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304 |
Bill Taylor |
Counsel. Provides background on SB 1041 relating to creating civil action for custodial interference in any degree. Introduces the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
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327 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about the criminal conviction prejudice and your ability to use that defense. |
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329 |
Taylor |
Responds that it would not be usable. |
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340 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about the difference in the -4 amendment. |
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342 |
Taylor |
Describes the -4 amendment; focuses on the differences between the -4 and -3 amendments. |
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360 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires about causes of action in section 2 of the -4 amendment, and if it would apply retroactively. |
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364 |
Taylor |
Explains causes of action, and stresses that it would apply retroactively. |
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381 |
BeaLisa Sydlik |
Oregon Law Center Policy Analyst. Expresses their support for the policy considerations of SB 1041. Relates the concerns they have with the amendments. |
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TAPE 166, A |
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Chair Burdick |
Inquires if the retroactive aspect would help or hinder the fiscal. |
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012 |
Sydlik |
Responds that it would help to remove the retroactive effect, but the fiscal effect would still be quite high. |
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022 |
Sen. Starr |
Comments that there is a real problem. Inquires how justice can be reasonably provided to the parents who have been subjected to this offense. |
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030 |
Sydlik |
Explains the existing statutes for relief; temporary custody orders, writs/orders of assistance, etc. |
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052 |
Sen. Starr |
Comments on the inadequacy in how custodial interference is currently handled. |
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069 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Expresses his opposition to SB 1041. Suggests that this is not the right vehicle for the issue. |
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079 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about the action being taken on the issue. |
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082 |
Sydlik |
Explains the action taken on parental abduction from many different perspectives. |
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092 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires if legislative proposals will come out of these groups. |
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094 |
Sydlik |
Declares that it is a possibility. Comments on the lack of awareness education. |
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101 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Requests that we look at models of other states’ solutions. Stresses that SB 1041 does not get to the issues needed to be addressed. |
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114 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes work session on SB 1041. Opens a public hearing on |
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HB 2268A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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122 |
Bill Taylor |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2268A which modifies the rules governing appraisal exchanges in condemnation actions. |
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148 |
Wendy Johnson |
Deputy Director, Oregon Law Commission. Explains HB 2268A. |
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164 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2268A. |
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HB 2268A – WORK SESSION |
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167 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2268A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Walker |
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170 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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173 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes work session on HB 2268A and opens a public hearing on HB 2742A. |
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HB 2742A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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177 |
Joe O’Leary |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2742A relating to establishing a Safe Routes to Schools Fund. |
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203 |
Troy E. Costales |
Manager, Transportation Safety Division, Department of Transportation. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B) and testifies in support of HB 2742 A. |
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237 |
Chair Burdick |
Questions if bill has been through budget process. |
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238 |
Costales |
Explains that the referral to Ways and Means was removed; fiscal is indeterminate as they do not know how much Congress will allot. |
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249 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires if it is federal funds that they are discussing. |
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251 |
Costales |
Responds affirmatively, and adds that other grants may be used/acquired for use in this Safe Routes to Schools Fund. |
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260 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Inquires about the authority to gather and disperse grants: does authorization need to be given by Ways and Means. |
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267 |
Costales |
Responds that they do have the statutory authority. |
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273 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires if a bill is needed to apply for these grants. |
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277 |
Costales |
Responds that the US Department of Transportation grants can be applied for by the Oregon Department of Transportation. |
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279 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks where this money goes if the bill does not pass. Inquires if other agencies can apply for these federal grants. |
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284 |
Costales |
Explains what would happen if the bill does not pass. Responds that grant funds usually flow through the state. |
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308 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires if this would affect land use planning, restrict community, commercial, or industrial development, alter automobile access or parking, or create authorization for imminent domain action. |
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317 |
Costales |
Responds that it must be determined locally. |
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345 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Questions whether decisions on these plans are made by stakeholders, officials, or the Transportation Safety Committee (TSC). |
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351 |
Costales |
Responds that local transportation authority will determine the safe routes. |
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359 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires if this is a parent, stakeholder, or public official. |
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366 |
Costales |
Replies that the school district, and local authority, city, county, or state would make those decisions. |
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373 |
Scott Bricker |
Bicycle Transportation Alliance/Willamette Pedestrian Coalition. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C) and testifies in support of HB 2742A. |
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439 |
Julie Warncke |
Transportation Manager, Salem Public Works Department, City of Salem. Testifies in support of HB 2742 A. |
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TAPE 165, B |
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033 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes public hearing on HB 2742A and opens a public hearing on HB 2599A. |
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HB 2599A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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040 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2599A which exempts from public disclosure personal information about customers of a public body providing water, sewer, or storm drain services. Introduces the -A4 (EXHBIIT D) and -A5 (EXHIBIT E) amendments to HB 2599A. |
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064 |
Chair Burdick |
Relates that she would like to focus on the –A4 amendment and the body of the original bill. |
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069 |
Sen. Starr |
Suggests that the –A4 amendment is in violation of the ‘relating to’ clause. |
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077 |
Moawad |
Responds that counsel has spoken to Legislative Counsel who approved the amendments with this relating clause. |
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085 |
Chair Burdick |
Questions whether the original content of the bill needs to be kept. |
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086 |
Moawad |
Responds that the original bill does not need to be retained. |
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088 |
Sen. Starr |
States that he is okay with the bill at this time. |
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101 |
Genoa Ingram |
Oregon Special Districts Association. Requests that the original bill remain intact even if –A4 amendments are included. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J). |
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114 |
Chair Burdick |
Relates that it was at the Chair’s direction that the –A4 amendments replace the entire bill. States that it does not have to remain that way. |
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118 |
Ingram |
Testifies in support of the original bill, and provides background on the bill. Relates that there has been no opposition to the bill. |
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164 |
Chair Burdick |
Describes her concern for the bill; talked about the Portland Water Bureau. |
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178 |
Ingram |
Responds that it was the Tualatin Water District. Comments on the policy to protect citizens in order to expose a very few. States that municipal districts are not required to share information. |
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198 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Suggests an amendment that would allow information relating to how much water is being consumed or used, rather than the personal information of individuals, to be accessed. |
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211 |
Chair Burdick |
Agrees with Sen. Prozanski’s suggestion. |
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219 |
Libby Henry |
City of Eugene, Eugene Water and Electric Board. Expresses concerns about the original HB 2599A. Requests an amendment. |
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249 |
Ingram |
Expresses agreement. |
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260 |
Kevin Neely |
Office of the Attorney General, Oregon Department of Justice. Expresses support for protecting individuals from identity theft. Relates the provisions for maintaining privacy, and personal identity exemption. |
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321 |
Chair Burdick |
Requests that he work on the language. Inquires about exemptions in public records law. |
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327 |
Neely |
Relates the ORS chapter (192.501) where the exemption language is found. |
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342 |
Chair Burdick |
States that if the meter location was left open there would be no argument making it a conditional decision. |
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347 |
Sen. Beyer |
Comments that he has never thought to keep these sorts of records private. |
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357 |
Neely |
Addresses policy issues that would have a blanket policy or not. |
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372 |
Scott Taylor |
Chief of Community Corrections, Oregon Department of Correction. Testifies in support of HB 2599A, with the –A4 amendments. |
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397 |
Pat Schreiner |
Oregon Association of Community Corrections Directors/Sex Offender Supervision Network. Testifies in support of HB 2599A with the –A4 amendments. |
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429 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires if there are concerns on the –A4 amendments. |
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432 |
Sen. Walker |
Suggests holding onto HB 2599A. Relates an issue concerning the identity of mandatory reporters. |
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TAPE 166, B |
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014 |
Chair Burdick |
States that the committee needs to be done by Thursday. Asks for concerns on the –A4 amendments. |
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021 |
Sen. Walker |
Comments on the special districts issue. |
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022 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks the –A4 amendment proponents to not replace the original text of the bill. |
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031 |
Moawad |
States that she will take care of the changes to the –A4 amendments. |
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034 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes public hearing on HB 2599A. Moves HB 2323 to Tuesday, June 14, 2005 and opens a public hearing on HB 2667. |
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HB 2667 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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042 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2667 which expands the definition of “sex crime” to include public or private indecency if the person convicted has a prior conviction for public or private indecency. |
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060 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires how someone can be in trouble for a crime they committed in another state that was not a crime in the state they acted in. |
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064 |
Moawad |
Clarifies that an out of state act would only apply if they were criminally convicted of a crime outside the state that is a similar conviction. Provides a clarifying example. |
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095 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Questions an issue in the example. |
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098 |
Pat Schreiner |
Oregon Association of Community Corrections Directors/Sex Offender Supervision Network. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT F) and testifies in support of HB 2667. |
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138 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2667. Opens a public hearing on HB 2156. |
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HB 2156 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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143 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Provides background on HB 2156 which ratifies the National Crime Prevention and Privacy Compact. |
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156 |
Patricia Whitfield |
Section Director, Oregon State Police, Identification Services Section. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G) and testifies in support of HB 2156. Provides information on the bill. |
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187 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires if this would increase access to other states’ information. |
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192 |
Whitfield |
Responds that they currently have limited access. Clarifies that the compact, as ratified by statute, would have to make more information available. Explains who would get access to what. |
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211 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires why this is necessary if there is already access. |
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214 |
Whitfield |
Explains that HB 2156 allows Oregon to have a voice in the process of ratifying the Compact. |
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236 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2156 and adjourns the meeting at 4:55 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY