SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
June 14, 2005 Hearing Room 343
3:00 P.M. Tapes 167 - 168
Corrected 10/26/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Vicki Walker
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: Heidi Moawad, Counsel
Sam Sears, Counsel
Dale Penn, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2811A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2282A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 3352A – Public Hearing
HB 2323 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2142A – Public Hearing
HB 2221B – Work Session
HB 2306A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2730A – Public Hearing and Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
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TAPE 167, A |
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003 |
Chair Burdick |
Calls the meeting to order at 3:10 p.m. and opens a public hearing on HB 2811A. |
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HB 2811A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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007 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2811A relating to expanding the types of equipment or devices that may not be used in a motor vehicle when the vehicle is driven or moved on the highway. Introduces and describes the –A10 amendment (EXHIBIT A). |
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015 |
Rep. Andy Olson |
House District 15. Testifies in support of HB 2811A. |
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035 |
Mark Landauer |
Office of Government Relations, City of Portland. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2811A (EXHIBIT B). |
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050 |
Lieutenant Vince Jarmer |
City of Portland. Testifies in support of HB 2811A. |
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064 |
Sen. Walker |
Raises her concerns with the bill; talks about other distractions that are not outlawed (putting on makeup, cell phones, reading, etc.). |
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074 |
Landauer |
Discusses how an officer must observe a number of different observations before pulling over an offender. Declares that an officer must wait for another offense before they would be able to cite an individual for having a DVD player on the dashboard: no enforcement mechanism. |
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093 |
Sen. Walker |
Inquires what would occur if the passenger argued they were using the DVD player as opposed to the driver. |
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096 |
Landauer |
Responds with information on current laws, advancing technology, and how the statutes must change to address these new distractions. |
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117 |
Sen. Walker |
Talks about how using her laptop while she is a passenger of a moving vehicle would be breaking the law. |
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132 |
Landauer |
Comments on officer discretion in cases such as these. |
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152 |
Rep. Olson |
Addresses subsection 2 that details the term “motor vehicle equipped,” or attached to the vehicle, and how this bill would not apply to laptops. |
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160 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about a violation concerning improper or inattentive driving. |
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165 |
Rep. Olson |
Discusses the different statutes that relate to Sen. Ringo’s question. |
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185 |
Sen. Beyer |
Desires clarification on the electronic devices that are “motor vehicle attached.” |
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194 |
Landauer |
Talks about the different electronic devices and how this law would address them. |
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207 |
Rep. Olson |
Comments on the discretion available to the judge in these cases, and stresses that technology advances so fast nowadays. |
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228 |
Chair Burdick |
Asks counsel to interpret the term “motor vehicle equipped.” |
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238 |
Moawad |
Talks about the –A10 amendment and how it addresses “image display devices” and the term “equipment” in relation to the bill and the effects it seeks to enact. |
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265 |
Landauer |
Discusses the image display being required to show certain visual mediums (television, movies, etc.). |
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275 |
Sen. Walker |
States that some laptops have DVD players installed. Agrees with the notion that people should not drive down the road and watch movies. |
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287 |
Lieutenant Jarmer |
States that they do not cite a large amount of these incidents. |
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298 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2811A. |
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HB 2811A – WORK SESSION |
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300 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2811A-A10 amendments dated 6/10/05. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Prozanski, Ringo |
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308 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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310 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2811A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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313 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that, for the record, the committee discussed at length the idea of an image displaying device being plugged into the lighter for power being applicable under the bill. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Prozanski, Ringo |
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330 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor. |
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333 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2811A and opens a public hearing on HB 3352A. |
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HB 3352A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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336 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 3352A relating to provideingthat the surviving parent of a decedent, or the heirs or devisees of a parent, does not inherit by intestacy if the decedent lacked the capacity to make a will for at least five years before the death and the parent failed to provide support for the decedent for a period of 10 years or more before the decedent attained 18 years of age, or if the decedent died before attaining 18 years of age and the parent provided no support for the decedent during the life of the decedent. Introduces and describes the –A5 amendment (EXHIBIT C). |
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371 |
Rep. Tom Butler |
House District 60. Testifies in support of HB 3352A with the –A5 amendment. |
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405 |
Rep. Butler |
Discusses the case that inspired the drafting of this bill. |
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440 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if there happened to be a child with a single dead-beat parent, who the inheritance would then go to if the child died. |
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TAPE 168, A |
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010 |
Sears |
Talks about the laws of inheritance. |
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015 |
Sen. Beyer |
Wonders about the effects of the bill on the laws of inheritance. |
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028 |
Rep. Butler |
Clarifies the effects of the bill under the circumstances raised by Sen. Beyer. |
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038 |
Sen. Beyer |
Argues that there are circumstances where this inheritance could go to people who do not truly deserve the inheritance. |
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052 |
Rep. Butler |
Discusses the circumstance talked about by Sen. Beyer. |
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070 |
Sen. Walker |
Notes that the bill clarifies the “dead-beat” parent as a deserter, as opposed to a grandparent or sibling who are not required (or fully responsible) for raising the child (and have been absent from their life until that point). |
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086 |
Chair Burdick |
Comments on the eventuality of the child dying and the estate going to the closest family member. |
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100 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Inquires as to the definition of “deserter.” |
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104 |
Sears |
States that the term was added after the initial drafting of the bill and declares that it is statutorily defined. |
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110 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Stresses that they need references to these sections in the bill in the eventuality of the law being challenged. |
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118 |
Sears |
Agrees with the idea raised by Sen. Prozanski. |
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124 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 3352A and moves the bill to the agenda for Thursday, June 16, 2005 to allow for upcoming amendments. Opens a public hearing on HB 2282A. |
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HB 2282A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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140 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2282A relating to modifying the complaint in criminal and violation citations. Introduces and describes the –A3, –A4, and –A6 amendments (EXHIBITS D - F). |
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200 |
Mark Landauer |
Office of Government Relations, City of Portland. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2282A (EXHIBIT G). |
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231 |
Bradd Swank |
Oregon Judicial Department. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2282A (EXHIBIT H). Discusses the efficiency in digitally recording the citation information as opposed to hand drafting the different forms. |
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279 |
Moawad |
Wonders which class of offense (misdemeanor, felony, etc.) this bill would apply to. |
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291 |
Swank |
Replies with information as to the abilities and responsibilities of the officers to cite different offenses. |
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310 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires as to the hacking preventions they have for their system. |
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315 |
Swank |
Discusses the different securities that create firewalls and the other protections that would halt hackers from cracking their system. |
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326 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Raises the concern that the Oregon Department of Education spent $32 million dollars on this sort of protection to have Eighth graders break through their protections just this year. Wonders how they would deal with hackers. |
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332 |
Swank |
Replies that there is a large variety of different hackers and they would deal with the different violations in specific methods. |
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362 |
Lieutenant Vince Jarmen |
City of Portland. Testifies in support of HB 2282A. Stresses the increase of efficiency in this new electronic system. |
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430 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks, for the record, if the citation would be dismissed if there was a loss of data. |
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441 |
Swank |
States that it is possible for the data to get lost in any system, but yes. |
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TAPE 167, B |
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026 |
Kelly Skye |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies in support of the –A3 amendment. |
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035 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2282A. |
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HB 2282A – WORK SESSION |
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039 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2282A-A3 amendments dated 5/27/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Walker |
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041 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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041 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2282A-A6 amendments dated 6/10/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Walker |
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043 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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044 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2292A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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048 |
Sen. Walker |
Raises the concern of a virus on this type of system. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Walker |
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054 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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055 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2282A and opens a public hearing on HB 2323. |
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HB 2323 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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056 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2323 relating to changing the date by which a person sentenced as a dangerous offender must undergo a mental health examination. |
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087 |
Michael Washington |
Chair, Board of Parole and Post-Prison Supervision. Testifies in support of HB 2323. |
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122 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2323. |
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HB 2323 – WORK SESSION |
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125 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2323 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Ringo, Walker |
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128 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WHITSETT will lead discussion on the floor. |
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129 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2323 and opens a public hearing on HB 2142A. |
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HB 2142A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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132 |
Heidi Moawad |
Counsel. Describes HB 2142A relating to specifying the circumstances under which corrections officers or other officials employed by the Oregon Department of Corrections may and may not use deadly physical force. Introduces and describes the –A2 amendment (EXHIBIT I). |
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155 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks why this amendment is necessary. |
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158 |
Moawad |
Talks about the concerns with the –A2 amendment; officers are already trained and authorized to use force. |
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182 |
Stan Czerniak |
Assistant Director for Operations, Oregon Department of Corrections. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2142A and the –A2 amendment (EXHIBIT J). Declares that the officers are not expressly authorized to use certain amounts of force to quell disturbances and other emergencies in specific correctional facilities. |
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226 |
Czerniak |
Declares that statutory authorization of deadly force in certain situations is needed. |
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236 |
Geoff Sugerman |
Western Prison Project. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2142A and the –A2 amendment (EXHIBIT K). |
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253 |
Chair Burdick |
Inquires about the possibility of opening up litigation because of this bill. |
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256 |
Sugerman |
Replies that he isn’t sure if the bill would increase the likelihood of litigation. |
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266 |
Moawad |
States that the Department of Public Safety Standards and Training (DPSST) is worried about the possibility of additional criminal and civil liability. |
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292 |
Mary Botkin |
American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees. Testifies in support of HB 2142A. Stresses that there has not been a case of deadly force in the prisons in over 20 years. |
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336 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Declares that officers are trained to use escalating force. |
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351 |
Botkin |
Replies that they are trying to limit civil and criminal liability for the officers. |
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375 |
Moawad |
Discusses the concerns raised by the Department of Justice. Talks about DPSST’s training methods in escalating force/use of force. |
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412 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Articulates the necessary for escalating force procedures. |
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420 |
Moawad |
Agrees with the discussion raised by Sen. Prozanski. |
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441 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Talks about the lawsuit problems resulting from escalating force. |
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TAPE 168, B |
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012 |
Steve Doell |
Crime Victims United. Testifies in support of HB 2142A. |
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036 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks if violent offenders are ever placed in minimum security prisons. |
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040 |
Botkin |
Replies that it is possible for a violent offender to find themselves, through good behavior, in a minimum security prison. |
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051 |
Czerniak |
States that if the prisoner is, in any way, a threat to the community, they are not placed in a minimum security environment. |
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054 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires about certain prisoners earning their way into minimum security prisons. |
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060 |
Czerniak |
Explains the classifications (prisoner profiles, offenses they were incarcerated for, etc.) that would allow for a transfer to a minimum custody facility. |
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072 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Wonders about job skills dictating an individual being placed into a minimum security facility. |
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075 |
Czerniak |
Replies that they would not attempt to do this. |
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083 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and moves HB 2142A to Thursday, June 14, 2005. Opens a work session on HB 2221B. |
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HB 2221B – WORK SESSION |
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102 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2221B relating to establishing a Child Abuse Multidisciplinary Intervention Program in the Department of Justice. Introduces and describes the –B4 amendment (EXHIBIT L). |
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120 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2221B-B4 amendments dated 6/3/05. |
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VOTE: 4-0-3 EXCUSED: 3 - Beyer, Prozanski, Ringo |
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123 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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124 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2221B to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 4-0-3 EXCUSED: 3 - Beyer, Prozanski, Ringo |
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128 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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139 |
Sears |
States that there is no fiscal for the bill. |
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144 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2221B and opens a public hearing on HB 2306A |
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HB 2306A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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146 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2306A relating to making unmarried parents of a minor child liable for the expenses and education of the child. Introduces and describes the –A7 amendment (EXHIBIT M). |
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177 |
Rep. Mary Nolan |
House District 36. Testifies in support of HB 2306A and the –A7 amendment. |
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211 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about a relating to clause conflict. |
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214 |
Rep. Nolan |
Discusses how the relating to clause does not conflict with the context or scope of the bill. |
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233 |
Jim Markee |
Oregon Collector’s Association. Testifies in support of HB 2306A with the -A7 amendment. |
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263 |
Markee |
Addresses the possible relating to clause conflict raised by Sen. Beyer. |
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279 |
Sen. Walker |
Inquires about the –A5 amendment being incorporated into the –A7. |
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283 |
Markee |
Replies that the –A7 has the –A5 within the drafting language. |
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291 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that this bill might create an unequal liability for parents who live together who are not married. |
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296 |
Markee |
Responds that current law is unequal in that regard and this bill seeks to fix that problem. |
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330 |
Tina Kotek |
Policy Director, Children First of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 2306A and the –A7 amendment. |
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347 |
Lisa Trussell |
Associated Oregon Industries. Testifies in support of HB 2306A and the –A7 amendment. |
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362 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2306A. |
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HB 2306A – WORK SESSION |
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365 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2306A-A7 amendments dated 6/13/05. |
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367 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Declares his opposition to the bill. |
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VOTE: 5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Beyer, Prozanski, Starr C., Walker, Burdick NAY: 1 - Whitsett EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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378 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. |
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380 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2306A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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386 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires about a fiscal on the bill and the conflict with the relating to clause. |
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358 |
Chair Burdick |
VOTE: 4-2-1 AYE: 4 - Prozanski, Starr C., Walker, Burdick NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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401 |
Chair Burdick |
The motion CARRIES. |
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407 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2306A and opens a public hearing on HB 2730A. |
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HB 2730A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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411 |
Sam Sears |
Counsel. Describes HB 2730A relating to providing civil immunity for broadcasters participating in the Amber Plan. |
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422 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2730A. |
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HB 2730A – WORK SESSION |
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429 |
Sen. Starr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2730A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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432 |
Chair Burdick |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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449 |
Chair Burdick |
Closes the work session on HB 2730A and adjourns the meeting at 5:00 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY