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PUBLIC HEARING & WORK SESSION, SB 269, SB 270 PUBLIC HEARING, SB 267 |
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TAPES 26-27 A |
FEBRUARY 7, 2005 8:30 AM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Members Present: Senator Ryan Deckert, Chair
Senator Charles Starr, Vice Chair
Senator Gary George
Senator Rick Metsger
Senator Floyd Prozanski
Witnesses Present: Judge Henry C. Breithaupt, Oregon Tax Court
Judge Jill Tanner, Presiding Magistrate
Ginny Lang, Qwest
John Phillips, Oregon Department of Revenue
Staff Present: Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer
Mary Ayala, Economist
Barbara Guardino, Committee Assistant
TAPE 26, SIDE A
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Chair Deckert |
Calls meeting to order at 8:34 a.m.
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PUBLIC HEARING, SB 270 |
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Paul Warner |
Staff Measure Summary (EXHIBIT 1). Grants Tax Court authority to establish rules for selecting person to represent taxpayers before a Tax Court magistrate.
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Henry Breithaupt |
Testifies in favor of SB 270. See written testimony, Statement of Judge Henry C. Breithaupt (EXHIBIT 2). Magistrate Division, created 7 years ago, permits a wide group of people to represent taxpayers. In some instances there is too much flexibility. This creates problems. Proposal broadens representation without requiring additional costs.
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Vice Chair C. Starr |
Asks for questions or discussion on bill. Hearing, none, closes public hearing, opens work session.
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WORK SESSION, SB 270
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Sen. Metsger |
MOTION: MOVES SB 270 TO THE SENATE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
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Vice Chair C. Starr |
ASKS FOR ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOTION. THERE BEING NO OBJECTIONS THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. VOTE: 4-0-1 MEMBERS VOTING AYE: METSGER, PROZANSKI, VICE CHAIR C. STARR, CHAIR DECKERT MEMBERS EXCUSED: GEORGE |
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PUBLIC HEARING, SB 269
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Warner |
Staff Measure Summary (EXHIBIT 3). Eliminates statutory requirement for taxpayers appealing to the Tax Court to file certified copy of complaints and petitions.
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Breithaupt |
Testifies in favor of SB 269. See written testimony (EXHIBIT 4). Housekeeping bill is designed to have statutes conform to what most often occurs. Individuals who testify before Magistrate Division are confused as to whether they need a certified copy of their complaint.
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Sen. Prozanski |
Expresses support for the measure.
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Vice Chair C. Starr |
Closes public hearing, opens work session.
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WORK SESSION, SB 269
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Sen. Metsger |
MOTION: MOVES SB 269 TO THE SENATE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
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Vice Chair C. Starr |
ASKS FOR ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOTION. THERE BEING NO OBJECTIONS THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. VOTE: 5-0-0 MEMBERS VOTING AYE: GEORGE, METSGER, PROZANSKI, VICE CHAIR C. STARR, CHAIR DECKERT
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PUBLIC HEARING, SB 267
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Mary Ayala |
Staff Measure Summary (EXHIBIT 5). Allows Tax Court to determine real market value or correct valuation of property that is subject to special assessment based on evidence before the court.
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Breithaupt |
Testifies in support of SB 267. See written testimony (EXHIBIT 6) with attachments. This bill returns the court to its position prior to 1995.
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Chair Deckert |
Asks Breithaupt to refresh committee on the questions members had when bill last came up.
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Breithaupt |
Responds, discussion was what occurs in the courtroom. As a trial proceeds, appraisers might submit evidence that is different from evidence submitted by taxpayer. Question: is the court limited or can it find a different value? Believes an oversight allowed for this statute to be repealed, and wants to correct it.
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Jill Tanner |
Comments, there is a provision in the income tax side of the code that allows the court to determine the correct assessment. This reinforces idea that this was an oversight and should be removed.
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Ginny Lang |
Testifies in support of an amendment to SB 267. See written testimony (EXHIBIT 7). See Proposed Amendment to Senate Bill 267 (EXHIBIT 8).
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Sen. Metsger |
Asks, why should record be capped?
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Lang |
Responds.
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Chair Deckert |
Asks for clarification to what the amendment would do.
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Lang |
Responds, issue is whether the party filing for an appeal should be overridden by the court based solely on evidence. Qwest would be glad to have a conversation with the Department of Revenue on this amendment. Qwest just went through a situation concerning this issue.
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Sen. Prozanski |
Wonders why the committee should accept this amendment.
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TAPE 27, SIDE A
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John Phillips |
Sees Qwest’s point, but does not understand the purpose of the amendment. Passage would not harm the Department of Revenue, but it would only allow efficiency to work in one direction. Goal is for property to be valued at 100% of its real market value.
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Breithaupt |
Observes, the way the bill is drafted, he as a judge would not have the ability to grant that motion. Suggests alternate wording.
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Phillips |
Concurs, that would be a problem for DOR.
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Sen. Prozanski |
Observes, this would be an extra step. Judge should have authority without going through extra step.
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Breithaupt |
Agrees, this is a one-way amendment.
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Vice Chair C. Starr |
Comments, this amendment would restrict the process beyond what presently exists.
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Breithaupt |
Agrees with vice chair’s comments.
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Vice Chair C. Starr |
Asks for committee’s input on whether to move ahead with SB 267.
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Chair Deckert |
Recommends holding bill to revisit later.
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Vice Chair C. Starr |
Closes public hearing on SB 267.
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Chair Deckert |
Reviews activities planned for the remaining of the week.
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209 |
Vice Chair C. Starr |
Adjourns meeting at 9:45 a.m. |
Tape Log Submitted by,
Barbara Guardino, Committee Assistant
Exhibit Summary:
1. SB 270, Staff Measure Summary, Warner, 1 pp.
2. SB 270, Statement of Judge Henry C. Breithaupt before the Senate Revenue Committee, Breithaupt, 1 pp.
3. SB 269, Staff Measure Summary, Warner, 1 pp.
4. SB 269, Statement of Judge Henry C. Breithaupt before the Senate Revenue Committee, Breithaupt, 1 pp.
5. SB 267, Staff Measure Summary, Ayala, 1 pp.
6. SB 267, Additional Information Requested by Senate Judiciary Committee on January 26, 2005, Breithaupt, 20 pp.
7. SB 267, Statement of Qwest Corporation in Support of Amendment to Senate Bill 267, Lang, 2 pp.
8. SB 267, Proposed Amendment to Senate Bill 267, Lang, 1 pp.