INFORMATIONAL MEETING

DAS REPORT ON CHARGES & FEES

 

TAPES 34-35, A

 

SENATE REVENUE COMMITTEE

FEBRUARY 14, 2005† †8:30 AM ††STATE CAPITOL BUILDING

 

Members Present:††††††††††††††††† Senator Ryan Deckert, Chair

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Senator Gary George

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Senator Rick Metsger

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Senator Floyd Prozanski

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Senator Charles Starr

†††††††††††††††††††††††

Witness Present:††††††††††††††††††† Kelly Freels, Department of Administrative Services

 

Staff Present:††††††††††††††††††††††††† Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Barbara Guardino, Committee Assistant

 

 

TAPE 34, SIDE A

005

Chair Deckert

Calls meeting to order at 8:35 a.m. Announces the Department of Administrative Services will present an update on the increases charges and fees as the tax rate has fallen.

 

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

015

Paul Warner

Directs membersí attention to SB 333, section 3 (EXHIBIT 1) which established a process for fees in 1995.

 

041

Chair Deckert

Asks what makes up these fees?

 

043

Kelly Freels

Directs membersí attention to Statewide Fee Overview paper version of slide show (EXHIBIT 2) and sample fee report from DAS data base Ė actual report is 65-75 pages long (EXHIBIT 3).

 

060

Freels

Will cover three areas:

1) Statutory requirements

2) 2003-05 report results

3) Observations/comments

 

065

Freels

Slide 2: Definition

Slide 3: SB 333 (1995) Discusses page 3, section 3

 

085

Freels

Slide 4: Currently Collected Information

 

 

Slide 5: Fee Revenue Estimates vs. Legislatively Adopted Budgets

 

105

Freels

Slide 6: Number of Fees by Program Area (approximately 2,500 in data base)

 

110

Warner

In terms of dollar amounts, biggest areas are higher education and OHSU, which are not included in this report.

 

119

Sen. George

Comments on fee report.

 

134

Freels

Continues review of slide 6. Points out that 80% of fees are in Natural Resources and Consumer and Business Services.

145

Freels

Slide 7: Number of Fees by Agency

 

165

Chair Deckert

Asks if agencies can increase fees or if this requires legislative action.

 

169

Freels

Responds, if the legislature gives agencies administrative authority, then it has to ratify increases.

 

174

Chair Deckert

Asks if there has been an up-tick in fees in past 5-6 years.

 

178

Freels

Responds yes, increases have occurred short-term and long-term.

 

197

Freels

Slide 8: Who pays Fees In Oregon? These figures are tentative.

 

215

Freels

Slide 9: Statewide Fee Changes

 

222

Freels

Slide 10: Fee Changes in Major Agencies, bar chart

 

238

Freels

Begins observations. Points out, there is no intersection between the fee report and the budget process. Comments on the fee report. Questions whether information on this report is being used.

 

277

Freels

Does not know the cost of producing this report.

 

289

Chair Deckert

Asks how many employees are needed to administer this section.

 

306

Freels

Responds, one clerical person works part-time on this report. Cost is insignificant, but if itís not usable he questions whether itís worth producing at all.

 

326

Chair Deckert

Follow-up questions concerning higher education tuition fees.

 

333

Freels

DAS has excluded tuition from any analysis. Fee data base isnít tied into technical budget system. Can provide information concerning cost of tuition fees.

 

355

Warner

Will provide higher education fee information. Dept. of Higher Education would be glad to speak before the committee.

 

395

Sen. George

Do other analyses include tuition and fees in their measurements?

 

419

Warner

Yes. Largest component is higher education; second is health and hospitals.

 

422

Sen. Prozanski

Comments on font size of fee report.

 

442

Freels

Responds, it is unreadable, to illustrate a point.

 

445

Chair Deckert

One question this committee needs to answer is whether Section 3 is even necessary.

456

Freels

Suggests a conversation between Legislative Revenue and Legislative Fiscal offices concerning what kind of information is helpful.

 

TAPE 35, SIDE A

035

Warner

Follows up on issue of working with fiscal office. He will return before the committee with recommendations based on those discussions.

 

066

Sen. George

Comments, more analysis would be better than 68 pages of unreadable data.

 

070

Sen. George

Asks if Treasurerís Office delivered information promised last week.

 

081

Warner

They provided information to LRO. That information will be available during Wednesdayís discussion (February 16).

 

087

Chair Deckert

Adjourns meeting at 9:08 a.m.

 

 

 

 

 

Tape Log Submitted by,

 

 

 

Barbara Guardino, Committee Assistant††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††

 

Exhibit Summary:

1.      Informational, Section 3, page 3 of Senate Bill 333, Warner, 1 pp.

2.      Informational, Statewide Fee Overview, Freels, 10 pp.

3.      Informational, sample pages from fee report, Freels, 2 pp.