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INFORMATIONAL MEETING REVENUE FORECAST MARCH 2005 |
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TAPES 45 A-B, 46 A |
FEBRUARY 25, 2005 9:00 AM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Senate Members Senator Ryan Deckert, Chair
Present: Senator Gary George
Senator Rick Metsger
Senator Floyd Prozanski
Senator Charles Starr, Vice Chair
House Members Rep. Tom Butler, Chair
Present: Rep. Vicki Berger, Vice-chair
Rep. Mark Hass, Vice-chair
Rep. Brian Boquist
Rep. Sal Esquivel
Rep. Larry Galizio
Rep. Betty Komp
Rep. Andy Olson
Rep. Chuck Riley
Witnesses Present: Tom Potiowsky, State Economist, Office Economic Analysis
Michael Kennedy, Senior Revenue Economist, OEA
Staff Present: Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer
Lizbeth Martin-Mahar
Barbara Guardino, Committee Assistant
TAPE 45, SIDE A
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Chair Deckert |
Calls meeting to order at 9:02 a.m. Announces March forecast, welcomes House Revenue Committee members.
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Paul Warner |
The Supreme Court last night issued a ruling on Bobo vs. Kulongoski (EXHIBIT 1). This involved 2001 legislature. Medicaid money from federal government was counted as general fund dollars. Legislature pulled it from general fund. Consequence was kicker refund for biennium was reduced by $113 million. Supreme Court sided with Circuit Court, overruled Appeals Court. Legislature acted properly in pulling local dollars out. This will have no impact on economic forecast. It removes one of the economic forecast risks.
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REVENUE FORECAST MARCH 2005 |
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Tom Potiowsky |
Briefs committee on process by which Office of Economic Analysis creates the quarterly economic forecasts. Directs members’ attention to Oregon’s Economic and Revenue Outlook, Release of March 2005 Quarterly Economic & Revenue Forecast (EXHIBIT 2). Begins with slide 2: Economic and Revenue Forecast
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Potiowsky |
Slide 3: Unemployment Rate by Region, December 2004
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Potiowsky |
Slide 4: U.S. Business Investment Drops Nine Consecutive Quarters – UP Seven |
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Potiowsky |
Slide 5: Oregon’s Total Exports Slide 6: Oregon Index of Leading Indicators
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Potiowsky |
Slide 7: 64,000 jobs lost; 3,000 left to gain back.
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Rep. Butler |
After the revision, Oregon is still 3,000 jobs short. What should the gain back be?
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Potiowsky |
Responds, doesn’t have the exact number, but state has a way to go to meet that benchmark.
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Potiowsky |
Slide 8: Total Non-farm Employment (Annual Percentage Change)
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Potiowsky |
Slide 9: Manufacturing Industry Employment (Annual Percentage Change)
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Potiowsky |
Slide 10: Private Non-Manufacturing Industry Employment (Annual Percentage Change)
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Potiowsky |
Slide 11: Comparison of Last Three Forecasts
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Potiowsky |
Slide 12: Oregon Outlook Summary
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Rep. Butler |
With personal income steady, does income tax collection go up?
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Michael Kennedy |
Responds, the national figure includes wages and salaries.
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Chair Deckert |
Asks questions concerning a previous slide.
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Potiowsky |
Refers to press packet (EXHIBIT 3) which highlights risk factors. Risks include China’s economy, declining dollar, inflation and energy due to low snow pack. Estimates 25% likelihood of any of these risks affecting the economy. Higher energy costs are of the most concern. |
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Rep. Boquist |
Questions the decrease in manufacturing strength.
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Potiowsky |
High tech sector is very mature and it will likely follow the national trend for manufacturing. There will probably be more outsourcing. Employment won’t return to its previous peak till 2011. Unknown are technological changes.
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Kennedy |
Begins review of personal and corporate income tax forecast, general forecast. Slide 13: Revenue Forecast
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TAPE 46, SLIDE A
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Kennedy |
Slide 14: 2003 Tax Year Statistics
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Kennedy |
Slide 15: Recent Forecast Performance
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Kennedy |
Slide 16: 2004 Tax Year
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Kennedy |
Corporate Income Tax … Slide 18: Recent Forecast Performance
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Kennedy |
Slide 19: Oregon Corporate Profits ($Billions)
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Kennedy |
Slide 20: General Fund Revenue Forecast (2003-2005) Biennium Total 2003-05 revenue forecast has been revised up $96 million, ending balance is $187 million.
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Kennedy |
Slide 21: Kicker Update 2003-05
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Kennedy |
Slide 22: GF Forecast Variance by Forecast
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Kennedy |
Slide 23: Potential Variance from March Forecast
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Kennedy |
Slide 24: General Fund 2005-07 Forecast Bottom line is, with increase in beginning balance plus increase in revenue projection, total resources for next biennium are about $202 million higher than in December 2004 forecast.
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Kennedy |
Comments about risks.
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Chair Deckert |
Questions what legislative actions OEA watches when compiling forecasts.
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Kennedy |
Everything in terms of tax law changes.
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Chair Deckert |
Questions concerning bonus depreciation.
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Potiowsky |
Responds, revised GDP figures showed 14% expenditure increase on business computers and equipment. There was a definite bump-up and it was probably related to bonus depreciation reserves.
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Rep. Boquist |
Asks for comments on impact of a potential 100% Bonneville Power Admin. increase, and of a possible second 9/11 terrorist attack.
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Potiowsky |
Bonneville situation is a definite risk, it would hurt the economy badly, particularly in high tech. This worry is longer term, not immediate. As for another terrorist attack, it would be easier to react to a second one. But the closer to home, the bigger the impact.
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Kennedy |
Continues slide presentation. Slide 25: General Fund Revenues ($Billions)
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Rep. Butler |
It appears Oregon is approaching capacity to expand. Is this true?
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Kennedy |
Oregon is not at capacity, in terms of office space and labor force.
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Kennedy |
Slide 26: General Fund Revenue Growth
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Kennedy |
Lottery Revenue Forecast … Slide 28: Lottery Revenues, 2003-05
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Kennedy |
Slide 29: Slot (Line) Games and VLT Sales
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Kennedy |
Slide 30: Lottery Revenues, 2005-07
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Kennedy |
Slide 31: Extended Lottery Forecast ($Millions)
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TAPE 45, SIDE B
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Kennedy |
Slide 32: Lottery Resource Available to the State (Millions) Slide 33: For more information …
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Rep. Boquist |
In regard to assumed long-run sales impact of 12% vs. growth rate of 2%, how realistic is the 12% figure?
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Kennedy |
Responds, Lottery has looked at West Virginia’s lottery as fairly comparable. OEA has taken middle-of-the-road estimate and it could be 5- to 20 percent.
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Chair Deckert |
Questions concerning commission rate structure. |
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Rep. Butler |
Asks how lottery revenues compare nationally.
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Kennedy |
It’s difficult to tell because it is so variable. State’s share is very low relative to other states.
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Chair Deckert |
Asks, how is Oregon doing on diversifying the economy?
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Potiowsky |
Oregon’s economy is more diversified than before. Manufacturing is more diverse, but all of manufacturing was hit by the recession. Oregon has positive growth, even though it booms and falls more than other states. High-tech has spread into other industries, for example, logging, which doesn’t equate to more employment.
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Potiowsky |
Oregon has a niche in nanotechnology (pertains to building microscopic machinery).
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Rep. Hass |
Asks, of the 61,000 jobs gained back, are employees earning more or less than those who lost jobs?
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Potiowsky |
Average earnings are a little less than jobs lost.
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Rep. Galizio
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Where would you advise policymakers to invest?
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Potiowsky |
State is worried about outsourcing and how to compete better in the world. Arguments about outsourcing are similar to arguments on unfair trade practices. U.S. needs to improve its higher education system in order to compete internationally.
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Chair Deckert |
Adjourns meeting at 10:09 a.m. |
Tape Log Submitted by,
Barbara Guardino, Committee Assistant
Exhibit Summary:
1. Informational, Oregon Judicial Department Appellate Court Opinions, In the Supreme Court of the State of Oregon, February 25, 2005, Warner, 7 pp.
2. Informational, Oregon’s Economic and Revenue Outlook, Release of March 2005, Quarterly Economic & Revenue Forecast, Potiowsky, 33 pp.
3. Informational, Oregon Economic and Revenue Forecast, Summary, Potiowsky, 16 pp.
4. LRO Forecast Summary, March 2005, New Facts Since the Last Forecast, Warner, 6 pp.