SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES
January 25, 2005 Hearing Room 343
8:30 A.M. Tapes 4 - 5
(Corrected 3-2-05)
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Kate Brown, Chair
Sen. Ted Ferrioli, Vice-Chair
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Frank Shields
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Jason Atkinson
STAFF PRESENT: Tiffany Harris, Committee Administrator
Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD & WITNESSES:
SB 197 – Public Hearing and Work Session
Sen. Vicki Walker
SB 161 – Public Hearing
Paddy McGuire, Secretary of State’s Office
Kappy Eaton, League of Women Voters of Oregon
SB 162 – Public Hearing and Work Session
Paddy McGuire, Secretary of State’s Office
Andi Miller, Common Cause
Kappy Eaton, League of Women Voters of Oregon
Annette Newingham, Deputy Lane County Clerk
Linda Smith, Klamath County Clerk
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 4, A |
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005 |
Chair Brown |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:33 a.m. Opens public hearing on SB 197. |
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SB 197 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Presents overview of SB 197, which prescribes a deadline for individual nominated or elected by write-in votes to a file a form accepting the nomination or office. |
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015 |
Sen. Vicki Walker |
District 7. Testifies in support of SB 197. Explains this is a reincarnation of SB 318 (2003). |
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035 |
Chair Brown |
Hearing no questions, closes public hearing on SB 197. Opens work session on SB 197. |
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SB 197 – WORK SESSION |
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040 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
MOTION: Moves SB 197 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Atkinson |
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045 |
Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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SB 161 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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055 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Presents overview of SB 161, which allows the Secretary of State, after consultation with affected county clerks, to postpone date of election in the event of civil disorder, state of emergency, natural disaster or other catastrophic event. |
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060 |
Paddy McGuire |
Deputy Secretary of State. Testifies in support of SB 161. Explains that 9-11-2001 was election day in New York City. |
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070 |
Chair Brown |
Asks about restrictions on the Secretary’s authority. |
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075 |
McGuire |
Explains the Secretary of State can only act in cases of exceptional circumstances. |
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085 |
Sen. Shields |
Comments there were other attempts on the World Trade Center but the building did not collapse. Asks about the parameters defining exceptional circumstances. Asks how many in New York had already voted on 9-11 and what happened to those votes. |
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105 |
McGuire |
Discusses drafting process and how the limitations were decided upon. Explains some flexibility is built into the language. Discusses possible scenarios. |
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140 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks what other circumstances allow the Secretary of State to issue this type of proclamation. |
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150 |
McGuire |
Responds the only one is if the Governor is unable to do so. |
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155 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Suggests following the same chain of command. |
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160 |
McGuire |
Does not object to adjusting the language to add more restrictions. |
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165 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Objects to language of Section 2(d) “any other catastrophic event.” Agrees extraordinary circumstances would warrant action. Asks for input from other elections officials. |
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180 |
Chair Brown |
Asks when and how the Governor declares an emergency, and how long it takes. |
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190 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Explains the Conflagration Act advises how an emergency can be declared. Discusses chain of command. |
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195 |
Sen. Shields |
Wants to keep the bill but suggests refining language after studying the effect of 9-11 events on New York elections. |
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210 |
Chair Brown |
Asks if the Secretary of State reviewed other states’ statutes. |
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215 |
McGuire |
Distinguishes Oregon election process with vote by mail. Offers to review other state statutes. |
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225 |
Chair Brown |
Discusses Washington state process. Comments half a dozen other states have this type of legislation. |
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235 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks under what circumstances a local election might be affected. |
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240 |
McGuire |
Responds the bill does not specifically address a local situation. Explains the purpose is to make sure the voting process is unimpeded.
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260 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks about partisan interpretation of disasters. Comments on carving out a local area if the rest of the state is unaffected. |
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280 |
Sen. Ringo |
Approves of the intent but suggests the bill language is too subjective. |
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295 |
Kappy Eaton |
League of Women Voters of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 161. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A). Agrees clarification is needed about specific circumstances under the mail-in voting process. Comments the 14-day time frame may be too short. |
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350 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Discusses possible catastrophic circumstances such as a mail strike. Suggests definitions are needed. |
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365 |
Eaton |
Agrees but urges moving the concept forward. |
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370 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments the election process must be objective. |
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380 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Hopes the Secretary of State has reviewed the constitution. |
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390 |
Chair Brown |
Closes public hearing on SB 161. Opens public hearing on SB 162. |
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SB 162 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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405 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Presents overview of SB 162, which requires all elections held in the state to be conducted by mail. |
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410 |
Paddy McGuire |
Deputy Secretary of State. Testifies in support of SB 162. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B). Discusses how Oregon does not conduct any polling place elections. Explains the statute should reflect the reality. |
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TAPE 5, A |
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020 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks if this includes the electoral college votes. |
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025 |
McGuire |
Explains the federal constitution requires the electors to meet in the state capitol but the electoral college does not vote at a polling place. |
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030 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks about city council votes. |
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035 |
McGuire |
Explains most local actions would not be covered. |
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040 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Discusses possible types of elections. Suggests the language is too broad. |
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050 |
Andi Miller |
Executive Director, Common Cause Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 162. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C). |
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070 |
Kappy Eaton |
League of Women Voters of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 162. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D). |
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075 |
Annette Newingham |
Election Official, Lane County; Association of County Clerks. Testifies in support of SB 162. Explains the remaining statutory references to polling places are confusing and this would provide clarity. |
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080 |
Chair Brown |
Asks what elections are affected and whether she has concerns. |
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085 |
Newingham |
Explains the statutes the county clerks follow apply only to the elections her office conducts. |
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090 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks about the meaning of the “all elections” language. |
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095 |
Newingham |
Clarifies it is covered by statute. |
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100 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks whether “all elections” means all under the Secretary of State’s jurisdiction. |
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105 |
Newingham |
Affirms the statute defines which elections the Secretary of State is responsible to conduct. |
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110 |
Sen. Shields |
Comments that if statute is clear and the measure language is clear there is no further action needed. |
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120 |
Chair Brown |
Asks Newingham to also comment on SB 161 to provide input from the county clerks. |
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130 |
Newingham |
Explains there is always something unexpected during an election. Describes Klamath County election during an earthquake. Discusses process of contacting the Secretary of State for direction to assure the election goes forward. |
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140 |
Chair Brown |
Closes public hearing on SB 162. Opens work session on SB 162. |
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SB 162 – WORK SESSION |
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145 |
Sen. Ringo |
MOTION: Moves SB 162 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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150 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Suggests the committee should not yet act. Advises he will not support the measure. |
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160 |
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VOTE: 3-1-1 AYE: 3 - Ringo, Shields, Brown NAY: 1 - Ferrioli EXCUSED: 1 – Atkinson |
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170 |
Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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175 |
Chair Brown |
Closes work session on SB 162. Reopens public hearing on SB 161. |
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SB 161 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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180 |
Linda Smith |
Klamath County Clerk. Discusses earthquake in 1993 which closed the courthouse. Explains the election was a polling place election so there were not many ballots already in the courthouse. Advises she would appreciate having direction in the statute how to handle a future event. |
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200 |
Chair Brown |
Closes public hearing on SB 161. Opens work session for introduction of committee measures. |
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INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE MEASURES – WORK SESSION |
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205 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Presents overview of LC drafts: · LC 101 relating to adoptions (EXHIBIT E) · LC 217 relating to taxation (EXHIBIT F) · LC 218 relating to health insurance coverage for hearing aids (EXHIBIT G) · LC 1082 relating to the Oregon Government Standards and Practices Commission (EXHIBIT H) · LC 1326 relating to state building code (EXHIBIT I) · LC 1393 relating to stalking protective orders (EXHIBIT J) · LC 1926 relating to restraining orders issued under Family Abuse Prevention Act (EXHIBIT K) · LC 1973 relating to urban renewal (EXHIBIT L) · LC 2016 relating to public employer recognition of labor organization (EXHIBIT M) ·
LC 1435 relating to
the recreational use of waterways |
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240 |
Sen. Shields |
MOTION: Moves LC's: 101, 217, 218, 1082, 1326, 1393, 1926, 1973, 2016, AND 1435 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills. |
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250 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asks about LC 2016. Comments it appears the bill would allow representation by a labor organization if a majority of employees sign a card but does not seem to include an election. |
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270 |
Chair Brown |
Recesses the committee at 9:20 a.m. |
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271 |
Chair Brown |
Reconvenes the committee at 9:26 a.m. |
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275 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Suggests the changes in LC 2016 appear to change the electoral process from permissive to mandatory, and apply only to public employees. Points out it appears to suspend the requirement for a union election. |
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295 |
Chair Brown |
Calls for the question. |
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VOTE: 3-1-1 AYE: 3 - Ringo, Shields, Brown NAY: 1 - Ferrioli EXCUSED: 1 - Atkinson |
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300 |
Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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NOTE: LC 101 printed as SB 417; LC 217 printed as SB 418; LC 218 printed as SB 419; LC 1082 printed as SB 420; LC 1326 printed as SB 421; LC 1393 printed as SB 422; LC 1435 printed as SB 423; LC 1926 printed as SB 424; LC 1973 printed as SB 425; and LC 2016 printed as SB 426. |
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305 |
Chair Brown |
Closes work session. Advises there will be no meeting Thursday, January 27. Adjourns the committee at 9:29 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 161, written testimony, Kappy Eaton, 1 p
B. SB 162, written testimony, Paddy McGuire, 2 pp
C. SB 162, written testimony, Andi Miller, 1 p
D. SB 162, written testimony, Kappy Eaton, 1 p
E. Introductions, LC 101, staff, 2 pp
F. Introductions, LC 217, staff, 2 pp
G. Introductions, LC 218, staff, 2 pp
H. Introductions, LC 1082, staff, 2 pp
I. Introductions, LC 1326, staff, 6 pp
J. Introductions, LC 1393, staff, 7 pp
K. Introductions, LC 1926, staff, 26 pp
L. Introductions, LC 1973, staff, 10 pp
M. Introductions, LC 2016, staff, 2 pp
N. Introductions, LC 1435, staff, 6 pp