SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES
June 22, 2005 Hearing Room C
3:00 P.M. Tapes 119 - 120
Corrected 10/27/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Kate Brown, Chair
Sen. Ted Ferrioli, Vice-Chair
Sen. Jason Atkinson
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Frank Shields
STAFF PRESENT: Tiffany Harris, Committee Administrator
Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2335A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2070A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2202A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 3029A – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 1068 – Public Hearing
SB 1082 – Public Hearing
HB 2104 – Work Session
SB 499 – Reconsideration and Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE 119, A |
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003 |
Chair Brown |
Calls the meeting to order at 3:10 p.m. and opens the public hearing on HB 2335A. |
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HB 2335A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of HB 2335A. |
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Rep. Krummel |
House District 26. Explains HB 2335A arose to address issues regarding the length of time DHS and law enforcement take to investigate the voluntary removal of a parent, guardian or care giver and due process issues. The bill directs DHS to notify the county multi disciplinary team and at the parents request look into the case. Notes that this does not create new private rights of action. Recommends moving to the floor without amendments. |
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047 |
Chair Brown |
Recalls that a bill that addresses the issues raised in the –A7 amendments (EXHIBIT A) has already passed the senate. |
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050 |
Rep. Krummel |
Responds that the –A7 are similar to SB 895 and explains the District Attorney’s Association have an issue with the –A7 amendments. |
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058 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2335 and opens the public hearing on HB 2070A. |
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HB 2070A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of HB 2070A. |
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071 |
Sen. Vicki Walker |
Senate District 7. Defers to Rep. Butler who is the sponsor of the bill. |
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077 |
Rep. Tom Butler |
House District 60. Explains HB 2070A provides an opportunity to small counties under 50,000 people, who have IEP programs, to allow these counties to have the money follow the student from one school district to the next. |
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101 |
Sen. Vicki Walker |
States that the -A3 amendments (EXHIBIT B) is SB 766 which passed the senate chamber earlier in the year. Explains this bill brings more accountability and transparency to school administrator contracts. |
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120 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2070A and opens the public hearing on HB 2335A. |
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HB 2335A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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122 |
Terry Fennell |
Foster parent, Marion county. Discusses having a clear understanding of an allegation in a timely manner. Describes knowledge of general allegations that took 8.5 months to be revealed. |
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148 |
Chair Brown |
Asks if there was a petition for dependency filed during the time period. |
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150 |
Fennell |
Answers he does not know. States that the children were removed from the foster parent and it took 8.5 months to receive a written explanation of what the outcome would be. |
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156 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2335A. Opens the public hearing on HB 2070. |
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HB 2070A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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168 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2070. Opens the public hearing on HB 2202A. |
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HB 2202A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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171 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of HB 2202A. |
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179 |
Jean Lasater |
Submits and summarizes an overview of HB 2202A (EXHIBIT C). |
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228 |
Chair Brown |
States it is her hope that through this task force work can be done to explore dollars following homeless youth in foster care. |
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237 |
Sen. Ringo |
Notes there is no fiscal impact statement and ask how would this be accomplished. |
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248 |
Chair Brown |
Responds that DHS and the Children and Families Commissions have ad hoc groups meeting on this issues and this is a coordination of those efforts. |
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256 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks could the agency be doing this with current resources. |
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261 |
Lasater |
Responds that this bill is intended to operate under current budget constraints. |
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270 |
Vicki Lansing |
Director, Oregon Commission on Children and Families. Answers they will intentionally address this issue to the extent possible with current resources. |
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280 |
Chair Brown |
Suggests focusing on the outcomes of specific programs that are working for the legislature to build on next session. |
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288 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2202A and opens HB 3029A. |
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HB 3029A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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294 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of HB 3029A. |
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Vicki Lansing |
Director, Oregon Commission on Children and Families. Explains why it is practical to move the Juvenile Crime Prevention Advisory Committee to the Commission on Children and Families. |
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336 |
Becky Ekland |
Juvenile Crime Prevention Coordinator, Oregon Criminal Justice Commission. Supports Ms. Lansing’s testimony and the move noting that it allows the criminal justice system to plan. |
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349 |
Paul Snider |
Association of Oregon Counties. Supports HB 3029A. |
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359 |
Chair Brown |
Asks why the emergency clause was added. |
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360 |
Lansing |
Explains the intent is to transfer employees and the functions smoothly. |
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Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3029A and opens the public hearing on SB 1068. |
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SB 1068 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Gina Skinner |
Deputy District Attorney in Washington County, representing the Oregon District Attorney’s Association. Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 1068 (EXHIBIT D). Explains the bill is needed to clarify the authority police have to enforce current release orders. |
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452 |
Skinner |
Explains how domestic violence crimes are difficult to prosecute because the victims either feel threatened or are influenced to minimize their testimony. Explains that the punishment of contempt of court does not refer to a release agreement and is not reflected in the criminal record. |
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TAPE 120, A |
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Sybil Hebb |
Civil Legal Attorney, Oregon Law Center. Explains that victims of domestic violence often feel the no contact order protects them but it does not because it does not provide for an arrest. |
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Jean Kunkle |
Manager, Domestic Violence Trial Team, Marion County. Concurs with Ms. Skinner and Ms. Hebb’s testimony. States these cases almost always involve batters who are intentionally disregarding the order of the court in the no contact order. |
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095 |
Kelly Skye |
Legislative Representative, Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 1068 stating there are a number of ways this is handled today for contempt proceedings. The problem that she is hearing is that police are confused about their authority to arrest for violation of a release agreement. Suggests that ORS 133.310 be amended to provide clarity. |
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126 |
Skye |
States that often times the victim initiates contact with the offender, such as by bailing them out, because the victim is not aware of the no contact provision. This bill places the defendant in extra jeopardy. |
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155 |
Chair Brown |
Asks is a restraining order violation held in family law court. |
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157 |
Skye |
Answers yes. Suggests clearing up the authority to arrest if there is a no contact order present. Notes the additional costs this will have on some cases and other complications. |
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207 |
Nancy Miller |
Deputy State Court Administrator, Program Operations Oregon Judicial Department. States that the department is neutral on SB 1068. Notes there is a fiscal impact and they would request a subsequent referral to Senate Budget. Estimates that 5% of Assault 4 misdemeanors would be affected at a cost of $120,000. |
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232 |
Chair Brown |
Asks where the 5% estimate came from. |
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232 |
Miller |
Answers it is a conservative guess. |
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236 |
Sen. Ringo |
Requests a response from the proponents. |
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243 |
Chair Brown |
Notes that if there is a 5% problem, it needs to be addressed. |
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251 |
Skinner |
Responds in agreement on the point of victims wanting contact and explains the reason is because the offenders have put the victims in a vulnerable position and are completely dependent them. |
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278 |
Sen., Ringo |
Ask about the circumstances when the victim is unaware of the no contact order. |
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281 |
Skinner |
Answers that the victims are notified. There is a document the perpetrator is required to go through and sign on in order to get out of jail. |
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316 |
Chair Brown |
Confirms the different counties being represented are Washington, Marion and Multnomah. |
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317 |
Skinner |
Reviews current remedies. States that time lags and full jails are an issue. |
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367 |
Sen. Ringo |
Confirms that a contempt order can be punishable up to six months. |
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374 |
Skinner |
Responds that most District Attorneys are not filing these; it cannot be added to the criminal charges or be part of the proceeding, it has to be handled in its own proceeding. |
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407 |
Kunkle |
States the vast majority of these charges are dropped because the defendant is influencing the victim. |
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TAPE 119, B |
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Skinner |
Explains tampering with the witness charges relative to the defendant’s motives. |
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024 |
Chair Brown |
Directs the parties to converse and reduce the fiscal impact. |
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Skinner |
Notes that it is her understanding the fiscal is related to making the charge a felony. |
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040 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on SB 1068 and opens the public hearing on SB 1082. |
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SB 1082 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Sen. Ben Westlund |
Senate District 27. Discusses the threat of summer wildfires and the concern of the tribes to prevent forest fires. Supports SB1082 with the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT E). |
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082 |
Michael Mason |
Representing the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs. Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 1082 on behalf of Louis Pitt, Jr. (EXHIBIT F). Explains that when the tribes gave up ten million acres to the United States they did not give up the stewardship obligations. It has been over a century of mistaken mismanagement with underbrush and runaway juniper on the rangelands. |
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102 |
Mason |
Explains they sought the bill because wind is not as stable an energy source as bio-mass is. They are asking for help with the PUC. |
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132 |
Sen. Ringo |
Ask if there is funding for clearing the under growth. Asks what are the costs and is it self sustaining. |
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134 |
Mason |
Answers the operating $4.2 million annually, the primary cost is getting the fuels to the mill. The capital cost for the project is $31.5 million and the tribes will borrow about $9 million from private lenders. |
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150 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks if it is self sustaining |
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153 |
Mason |
Answers not in the first few years, but ultimately yes. |
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159 |
Sen. Westlund |
Adds that some of the rate will have to be subsidized. |
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164 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks what are the characteristics of the mill. |
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178 |
Louis Pitt, Jr. |
Director of Government Affairs and Planning, Confederated Tribes of the Warm Springs. Responds the mill is a classic boiler. There is the business side and the forest health side, this is one more tool to |
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204 |
Sen. Shields |
Ask how many jobs will this create. |
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208 |
Mason |
Answers the estimate is between 60 to 70 on-reservation jobs. |
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217 |
Sen. Westlund |
Addresses the -1 amendments. Refers to line 22 in the original bill and suggests changing “shall” to “may”. |
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239 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on SB 1082 and opens the work session on HB 2104A. |
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HB 2104A – WORK SESSION |
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240 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of HB 2104A. |
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249 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2104A -A3 amendments dated 5/20/05 (EXHIBIT G). |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Atkinson |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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251 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 2104A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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253 |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Atkinson |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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259 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2104A and opens the work session on SB 499. |
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SB 499 – WORK SESSION |
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273 |
Mary Botkin |
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. Explains the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT H). |
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299 |
Chair Brown |
Requests an explanation on the word changes. |
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300 |
Botkin |
Explains the amendments were drafted to meet the actuarially neutral cost. Explains that the difference between the -3 (EXHIBIT I) and -4 amendments is the addition of “until the member attains the age of 55.”
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319 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 499-4 amendments dated 6/22/05. |
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322 |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 – Atkinson*, Ringo (*see tape 119 B #406) |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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323 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves SB 499 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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326 |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Ringo |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BROWN will lead discussion on the floor. |
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334 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on SB 499 and opens the work session on HB 2070A. |
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HB 2070A – WORK SESSION |
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337 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2070A -A3 amendments dated 6/16/05. |
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339 |
Chair Brown |
Notes for the record that Sen. Ferrioli objects. |
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341 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Requests the full committee be present. |
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352 |
Chair Brown |
Recaps the status of HB 2070. |
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VOTE: 3-2-0 AYE: 3 - Ringo, Shields, Brown NAY: 2 - Atkinson, Ferrioli |
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375 |
Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 2070A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 3-2-0 AYE: 3 - Ringo, Shields, Brown NAY: 2 - Atkinson, Ferrioli |
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382 |
Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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386 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Serves notice of a possible minority report. |
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SB 499 – RECONSIDERATION & WORK SESSION |
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393 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of RECONSIDERING the vote on SB 499 as amended with the -4 amendments. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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406 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow SEN. ATKINSON to BE RECORDED as voting NAY on the motion to move SB 499 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 3-1-1 AYE: 3 - Shields, Ferrioli, Brown NAY: 1 - Atkinson EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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421 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on SB 499 and opens the work session on HB 2202A. |
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HB 2202 – WORK SESSION |
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430 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 2202A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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437 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor. |
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438 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2202A and opens the work session on HB 2335A. |
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HB 2335A – WORK SESSION |
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442 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 2335A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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443 |
Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BROWN will lead discussion on the floor. |
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445 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2335A and opens the work session on HB 3029A. |
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HB 3029A – WORK SESSION |
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456 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 3029A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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458 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. FERRIOLI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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466 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 3029A and opens the public hearing on SB 1082. |
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SB 1082 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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TAPE 120, B |
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Dan Postrel |
Public Affairs Director, Oregon Department of Forestry. Testifies in support of SB 1082 because it fits with the Oregon Business Plan strategy, supports rural economic growth, and benefits forest health. Acknowledges the concerns of the PUC. |
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Greg Miller |
Government Affairs Manager, Weyerhaeuser Company. Opposes the bill and suggests that all co-generators be treated equally. Supports the principals and projects of the tribes but disagrees with where this falls within the PUC process relative to rates. |
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092 |
Mark Nelson |
Explains the fundamental problem is to ask all rate payers to pay for a project that may not be economical. |
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113 |
Chair Brown |
Asks if they are still opposed if in lines 18 and 22 “shall” is deleted and replaced with “may.” |
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115 |
Nelson |
Refers to line 10 of the amendments. |
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125 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Supports the shall/may changes in the amendments and the bill. Notes for the record that the tax credits that come with alternative energy issues allow these plants to be viable. Notes the 40 to 50 percent unemployment factor on the Warm Springs reservation. |
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163 |
Chair Brown |
Expresses that it was her understanding there was an agreement. |
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166 |
Nelson |
Answers that he understood it would come back but there was not agreement on the language. |
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169 |
Chair Brown |
Asks about tribal sovereignty. |
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184 |
Nelson |
Responds that they do not believe rate payers should pay for a project that is not economically feasible. |
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190 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on SB 1082 and adjourns the meeting at 5:15 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. HB 2335A, -A7 amendments, Representative Jerry Krummel, 2 pp
B. HB 2070A, -A3 amendments, Senator Vicki Walker, 2 pp
C. HB 2202A, prepared testimony, Jean Lasater, 12 pp
D. SB 1068, prepared testimony, Gina Skinner, 8 pp
E. SB 1082, -1 amendments, Senator Ben Westlund, 1 p
F. SB 1082, prepared testimony, Michael Mason, 2 pp
G. SB 2104A, -A3 amendments, staff, 1 p
H. SB 499, -4 amendments, Mary Botkin, 6 pp
I. SB 499, -3 amendments, Mary Botkin, 6 pp