SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES
June 27, 2005 Hearing Room B
1:00 P.M. Tapes 127 - 130
Corrected 10/27/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Kate Brown, Chair
Sen. Ted Ferrioli, Vice-Chair
Sen. Jason Atkinson
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Frank Shields
STAFF PRESENT: Tiffany Harris, Committee Administrator
Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 1037A - Work Session
HB 2932A - Public Hearing and Work Session
SJR 24 - Public Hearing
HB 2480 - Work Session
HB 2706 – Work Session
SB 1074 – Work Session
HB 3174A – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 1072 – Public Hearing
SJR 9 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 3379 – Public Hearing
Approval of Drafting Requests – Work Session
HB 3092A –Reconsideration and Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 127, A |
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005 |
Chair Brown |
Calls meeting to order at 1:10 p.m. and opens a work session on SB 1037A. |
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SB 1037A – WORK SESSION |
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Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Submits the -A17 amendments (EXHIBIT A) and the -A18 amendments (EXHIBIT B) to SB 1037A. |
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007 |
Sen. Ringo |
Provides an overview of SB 1037A with amendments. |
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017 |
Chair Brown |
Asks which amendments Sen. Ringo would like considered. |
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018 |
Sen. Ringo |
Replies the -A18 amendments. |
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020 |
Chris Crean |
Assistant County Attorney, Multnomah County. Provides an explanation of the -A18 amendments. Explains the -18 amendments include the tract of record provision which is found is section 11. |
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042 |
Chair Brown |
Asks if the tract of record provision is on page 22. |
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043 |
Crean |
Replies yes. |
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044 |
Chair Brown |
Verifies section 11 is not intended in any way to subvert or destroy a Measure 37 (2004) claim. |
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045 |
Crean |
Replies correct. |
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050 |
Sen. Ringo |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 1037-A18 amendments dated 06/27/05. |
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052 |
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VOTE: 3-1-1 AYE: 3 - Ringo, Shields, Brown NAY: 1 - Atkinson EXCUSED: 1 - Ferrioli |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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056 |
Sen. Ringo |
MOTION: Moves SB 1037A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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058 |
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VOTE: 3-1-1 AYE: 3 - Ringo, Shields, Brown NAY: 1 - Atkinson EXCUSED: 1 – Ferrioli (Note: See Tape 127, A, counter 230, and page 3 of these minutes.) |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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060 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on SB 1037A and opens a public hearing on HB 2932A. |
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HB 2932A - PUBLIC HEARING |
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Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Submits the –A2 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT C). |
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065 |
Rep. Donna Nelson |
House District 24. Testifies in support of HB 2932A. |
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082 |
Sen. Shields |
Wonders why this wasn’t done previously. |
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083 |
Rep. Nelson |
Responds. |
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090 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2932A and opens a public hearing on SJR 24. |
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SJR 24 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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095 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SJR 24. Submits the -1 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT D). |
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099 |
Sen. Bruce Starr |
Senate District 15. Explains the -1 amendments. Submits written testimony in support of SJR 24 with the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT E). |
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138 |
Sen. Rick Metsger |
Senate District 26. Testifies in support of SJR 24 with the -1 amendments. |
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155 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Explains the representatives from the Port are supportive of the amendments. |
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159 |
Chair Brown |
Remarks there are additional amendments that are not yet ready. |
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160 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Appreciates the public hearing. |
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161 |
Sen. Ringo |
Points out that Governor Atiyeh proposed and implemented a tax increase to deal with their fiscal issues. |
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164 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Responds. |
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The following material is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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Dan Lavey |
Citizen. Submits written testimony in support of SJR 24 (EXHIBIT F). |
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167 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on SJR 24 and opens a work session on HB 2480. |
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HB 2480 – WORK SESSION |
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174 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 2480. States there are -1 amendments. |
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183 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about amendments. |
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185 |
Chair Brown |
States that the -1 amendments will not be considered. Makes comments on HB 2480. |
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195 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 2480 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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197 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BATES will lead discussion on the floor. |
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201 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2480 and opens a work session on HB 2706. |
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HB 2706 – WORK SESSION |
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205 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 2706. |
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210 |
Chair Brown |
Makes comments on HB 2706. |
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211 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 2706 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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215 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. MONNES-ANDERSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
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219 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2706. |
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220 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow SEN. FERRIOLI to BE RECORDED as voting NAY on the motion to send SB 1037A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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223 |
Sen. Ringo |
States that he will only object if it will lead to a minority report. Explains he is accepting Sen. Ferrioli’s statement that it will not. |
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228 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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230 |
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VOTE: 3-2-0 AYE: 3 - Ringo, Shields, Brown NAY: 1 – Atkinson, Ferrioli (Note: See Tape 127, A, counter 058, and page 2 of these minutes.) |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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233 |
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Opens work session on SB 1074. |
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SB 1074 – WORK SESSION |
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234 |
Sen. Floyd Prozanski |
Submits and explains the -6 amendments to SB 1074 (EXHIBIT G). |
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246 |
Bill Judd |
City Council, Coburg. Submits and explains the -4 amendments to SB 1074 (EXHIBIT H). |
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274 |
Chair Brown |
Explains the -6 amendments are from Sen. Prozanski and the -4 amendments are from the city of Coburg. |
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275 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Discusses opposition to the -4 amendments. |
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298 |
Judd |
Responds to Sen. Prozanski’s comments. |
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313 |
Sen. Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 1074-6 amendments dated 06/27/05. |
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320 |
Rep. Phil Barnhart |
House District 11. Discusses the significant change in administration in the City of Coburg in the last two years. Discusses services provided in Coburg. |
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348 |
Sen. Shields |
Discusses the new administration in the City of Coburg. Discusses an experience of a citizen who received a ticket in Coburg. Asks for comments. |
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372 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Comments on mentioned incident. |
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393 |
Sen. Shields |
Believes they may not be referring to the same situation. Comments on the idea of a new administration. |
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405 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Believes the difficulty Coburg has had seemed to be related to a particular employee. Explains in detail. |
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419 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Discusses operation of a speed trap. Explains the question is whether Coburg should be allowed to continue to operate the speed trap for a period of time. Comments on legislation passed in 2003. |
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TAPE 128, A |
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007 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Agrees that the legislature should not condone the operation of a speed trap. |
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011 |
Sen. Shields |
States he is conflicted. |
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017 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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019 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves SB 1074 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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021 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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023 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on SB 1074 and opens a public hearing on HB 3174A. |
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HB 3174A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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025 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 3174A. Submits the –A3 (EXHIBIT I) and the –A4 amendments (EXHIBIT J) for the record. |
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027 |
Rep. John Dallum |
House District 59. Introduces himself. |
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028 |
Chair Brown |
Explains the –A5 amendments are not yet ready. |
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030 |
Rep. Dallum |
States he has not seen the -A5 amendments, but has heard about them. Testifies in support of HB 3174A. |
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048 |
Chair Brown |
Asks the witnesses to step outside and make sure the –A5 amendments are correct. |
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050 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3174A. |
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057 |
Chair Brown |
Re-opens the public hearing on HB 3174A. |
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HB 3174A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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060 |
Sen. Charles Starr |
Senate District 13. Testifies in support of HB 3174A. |
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075 |
Karen Heikes |
Charter Schools Development Center. Testifies in support of HB 3174A. Submits the -A5 amendments (EXHIBIT K) and written testimony (EXHIBIT L). |
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115 |
Jim Green |
Oregon School Boards Association. Explains the -A5 amendments. Testifies in support of HB 3174A with the –A5 amendments. |
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125 |
Chair Brown |
Asks if Rep. Farr is here in support of HB 3174A. Notes witness supports HB 3174A. |
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131 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3174A and opens a work session on HB 3174A. |
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HB 3174A – WORK SESSION |
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133 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3174-A5 amendments dated 06/27/05. |
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135 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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136 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 3174A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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138 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. MORRISETTE will lead discussion on the floor. |
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140 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 3174A and opens a public hearing SB 1072. |
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SB 1072 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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145 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SB 1072. Submits the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT M) and the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT N) to SB 1072. |
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148 |
Sen. David Nelson |
Senate District 29. Testifies in support of SB 1072. Submits written testimony on behalf of Marvin Brown, Oregon Department of Forestry (EXHIBIT O). |
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175 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Makes comments. |
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208 |
Sen. Nelson |
Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT P). Submits and discusses PowerPoint presentation (EXHIBIT Q). |
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300 |
Sen. Nelson |
Continues PowerPoint presentation. Discusses submitted article. |
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319 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments on the Board of Forestry. |
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341 |
Sen. Nelson |
Responds. |
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370 |
Mari Anne Gest |
Wild Salmon Center. Submits and reads written testimony regarding SB 1072 (EXHIBIT R). |
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TAPE 127, B |
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001 |
Gest |
Continues reading written testimony. |
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020 |
Doug Heiken |
Oregon Natural Resources Council. Submits and discusses written testimony regarding SB 1072 (EXHIBIT S). |
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067 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks if witness believes federal lands are being under-harvested. |
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070 |
Heiken |
Discusses restoration of federal forest lands. |
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079 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments all the interests need to be balanced. Points out that substantially less is being harvested than what was contemplated under the Clinton plan. Wonders if witness believes that is a problem and if the harvest targets need to be increased. |
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084 |
Heiken |
Explains the Clinton plan applies west of the Cascades. Discusses implementation of the forest plan that would provide more wood products and more jobs and is also better for habitat. |
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094 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks about the -2 amendments. |
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098 |
Heiken |
Explains the -2 amendments are a product of a lot of discussion. Believes their concerns have been addressed in the -2 amendments. |
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106 |
Sen. Ringo |
Wonders about compromise. |
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107 |
Heiken |
Explains they received the -2 amendments a short time ago and have not had a chance to look at them in detail. |
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108 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Discusses different approaches to forest management. Suggests utilizing SB 1072 as a vehicle for compromise. |
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145 |
Jim Geisinger |
Associated Oregon Loggers. Submits and reads written testimony in support of SB 1072 (EXHIBIT T). |
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200 |
Geisinger |
Discusses concerns with the -2 amendments. |
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228 |
Marvin Brown |
Director, Department of Forestry. Refers to testimony submitted by Sen. Nelson on behalf of the Department of Forestry. Submits a letter on behalf of Gov. Ted Kulongoski in support of SB 1072 (EXHIBIT U). Testifies in support of SB 1072. |
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248 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks witness to define treated. |
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250 |
Brown |
Provides an explanation. |
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255 |
Sen. Shields |
Verifies they manage to get to approximately one percent. |
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256 |
Brown |
Replies yes. |
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257 |
Brown |
Continues testimony in support of SB 1072. |
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281 |
Vice-Chair Ferrioli |
Asks if there is a way to characterize the backlog in untreated acres on federal forest lands. |
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285 |
Brown |
Offers to try and retrieve the information. States there are approximately 10 million acres at high risk in the state and they are getting to a little more than one percent of that a year. |
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291 |
Vice-Chair Ferrioli |
Verifies the percentage of treated acres is a fraction over the percentage of high risk acres, not a percentage of the total acres. |
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295 |
Brown |
Replies correct. |
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297 |
Vice-Chair Ferrioli |
Asks if the Governor has had a chance to look at the -2 amendments. Wonders if his written support is for the bill as drafted. |
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301 |
Brown |
Explains the letter was written before the -2 amendments were drafted. |
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307 |
Vice-Chair Ferrioli |
Wonders if the Governor supports SB 1072 as drafted or the amended version. |
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309 |
Brown |
States he would not want to speak on behalf of the Governor. |
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311 |
Sen. Shields |
Explains he thought the Governor was supportive of the -2 amendments. Asks about biomass. |
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331 |
Brown |
Discusses management concepts. |
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343 |
Sen. Shields |
Wonders if gathering up the biomass in the federal forests could be done within the concepts of the structured based management that has been promoted on state forests. Verifies that would enhance wildlife habitat. |
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352 |
Brown |
Replies yes. |
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354 |
Sen. Shields |
Explains he had visualized biomass as the blanket of debris that builds up over time on the forest floor. Points out it is a lot more than that. |
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358 |
Brown |
Explains they are mainly concerned with standing trees and the density of the forest. Explains in detail. |
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368 |
Sen. Shields |
Verifies that forest fires clean up the forest floor and also knock out the dead standing trees without harming the healthier trees. |
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376 |
Brown |
Explains forest fires in the east side of the state. Provides background information on fire protection. |
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396 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Comments on the differences between forests in the west side of the state and the east side of the state. Discusses history of forest management in the eastern part of the state. Comments on long term forest health. |
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TAPE 128, B |
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Sen. Ringo |
Wonders about the economics of biomass operations. Discusses loss of money with regards to the management of federal forests. Wonders biomass could be financially self-sustaining. |
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010 |
Brown |
Explains it is close to not being profitable primarily because of transportation costs. Discusses use of biomass. |
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019 |
Sen. Ringo |
Wonders if financial loss with regards to biomass is part of the cost of managing forests. Inquires as to a funding source. |
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026 |
Brown |
Explains they do not anticipate that money from the state. States they would have to operate under a federal grant. Provides further explanation. |
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036 |
Sen. Ringo |
Points out this is a long term investment for the health of the forest. |
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040 |
Brown |
Responds. |
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043 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks if there are examples of biomass operations in place in Oregon currently. |
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051 |
Brown |
Believes there is an example in the Lakeview area. Discusses Sun Pass State Forest. |
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057 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks if that is a place where they are specifically removing the overstocked material for the purpose of forest health. |
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058 |
Brown |
Replies yes and explains they also generate revenue. |
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060 |
Sen. Ringo |
Wonders what happens to the removed materials. |
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061 |
Brown |
Explains they are purchased by saw mills and local industry. |
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062 |
Chair Brown |
Makes comments regarding today’s agenda. |
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070 |
Chair Brown |
Recesses the public hearing on SB 1072 and opens a public hearing on HB 2932A. |
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HB 2932A - PUBLIC HEARING |
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073 |
Sen. Ben Westlund |
Senate District 27. Explains the -A2 amendments. States that Rep. Nelson supports the -A2 amendments. |
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090 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments on relating clauses. |
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094 |
Sen. Westlund |
Responds. Continues testimony in support of HB 2932A with the -A2 amendments. |
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102 |
Chair Brown |
Makes comments. |
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120 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2932A and re-opens the public hearing on SB 1072. |
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SB 1072 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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121 |
Mike Grainey |
Director, Oregon Department of Energy. Testifies in support of SB 1072. Mentions HB 3481 (2005). |
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156 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks if the cogeneration facilities produce much air pollution. |
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157 |
Grainey |
Explains they produce less than fossil fuels. Provides details. |
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161 |
Sen. Shields |
Wonders about infrastructure required for clearing biomass. |
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164 |
Grainey |
Believes the intent is to use the existing infrastructure. |
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171 |
Sen. Shields |
Wonders about logging roads that have not been used in a while. |
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177 |
Grainey |
Expects there to be some improvements necessary, but explains the costs do not involve large scale road building. |
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185 |
Chair Brown |
Recesses the public hearing on SB 1072 and recesses the meeting at 2:54 p.m. Calls the meeting back to order at 4:32 p.m. and re-opens the public hearing on SB 1072. |
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SB 1072 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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188 |
Chair Brown |
States that Lee Hazelwood had to leave but has submitted written testimony for the record (EXHIBIT V). |
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196 |
Ray Wilkeson |
Oregon Forest Industries Council. Expresses support for SB 1072. Expresses gratitude to Sen. Nelson. Concurs with testimony of Jim Geisinger. Expresses concerns with the -2 amendments. |
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217 |
Greg Miller |
Weyerhaeuser. Discusses opposition to the -2 amendments. Suggests changes to the -2 amendments. Submits and discusses informational packet in support of SB 1072 (EXHIBIT W). Mentions HB 3481 (2005). Expresses support for the -1 amendments. |
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280 |
Bill J. Kluting |
Western Council of Industrial Workers, Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 1072. |
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328 |
Chair Brown |
Comments the environmental community and the timber industry both have concerns with the -2 amendments. |
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333 |
Sen. Shields |
Wonders if the definition of biomass given by witness is different than the definition of biomass in the -2 amendments. |
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338 |
Miller |
Replies correct. |
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339 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks if they are competing definitions. Inquires as to an explanation of the difference in definitions. |
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341 |
Miller |
States he does not know the intent of the proponents of the -2 amendments. |
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344 |
Sen. Shields |
Verifies witness does not know where the definition in the -2 amendments comes from. |
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345 |
Miller |
Confirms this. Explains they are comfortable with the definition of biomass as defined in HB 3481 (2005) and with the way the Oregon Public Utility Commission has defined it. |
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357 |
Chair Brown |
Mentions SB 1082 (2005) regarding Warm Springs biomass generation. Believes the same issue occurred in that bill. |
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360 |
Miller |
Believes there was no definition in SB 1082. |
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361 |
Chair Brown |
Replies yes and explains that is the problem with SB 1082. |
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362 |
Miller |
Verifies that someone wants a definition in the bill. |
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363 |
Chair Brown |
Replies yes. |
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364 |
Miller |
Comments on the definition of biomass. |
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366 |
Sen. Shields |
States that the main difference in the definitions seems to be with the pulping liquor. |
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367 |
Miller |
Replies yes. |
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368 |
Sen. Shields |
Requests explanation of the carbon neutral paragraph. |
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373 |
Miller |
Inquires as to what Sen. Shields is looking at. |
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374 |
Sen. Shields |
Replies he is looking at the fact sheet discussing the benefit of using pulping liquor for renewable energy. |
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380 |
Miller |
Refers to and explains the flow chart in the submitted packet (EXHIBIT V). |
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407 |
Sen. Shields |
Wonders if the added pulping chemicals become part of the liquor that gets burned. |
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410 |
Miller |
Explains it gets separated out. |
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411 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks clarifying question. |
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413 |
Miller |
Provides clarification. |
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419 |
Sen. Ringo |
Verifies reasons for objections to the -2 amendments. |
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433 |
Sen. Ringo |
Wonders what specifically about the definition of biomass in the -2 amendments the witness finds objectionable. |
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437 |
Miller |
Provides explanation. |
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TAPE 129, A |
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006 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks if witness had discussions with Sen. Nelson on this issue. |
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008 |
Miller |
Replies no. Explains the dialogues with Sen. Nelson have been about the basic concept of the bill. Explains today was the first time he had seen the -2 amendments. Explains he expressed his concerns to Sen. Nelson prior to the hearing. Explains one alternative is to strike the definition of biomass from the bill. |
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020 |
Sen. Ringo |
Verifies those are the only two objections the witness has and if those concerns are addressed he would support the -2 amendments. |
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022 |
Miller |
Replies yes. |
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023 |
Sen. Ringo |
Wonders about the economics of biomass operations in the forest. |
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026 |
Miller |
Discusses the economics of biomass operations. |
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046 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on SB 1072 and opens a public hearing on SJR 9. |
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SJR 9 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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053 |
Sen. Richard Devlin |
Senate District 19. Explains SJR 9. Discusses legislation from the 2003 legislative session. Provides background information on annual legislative sessions. |
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098 |
Kathy Eaton |
Governor’s Coordinator, League of Women Voters of Oregon. Discusses support for annual sessions. |
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110 |
Sen. Devlin |
Comments on the benefits of annual sessions. |
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117 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on SJR 9 and opens a public hearing on HB 3379. |
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HB 3379 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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118 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 3379. Submits the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT X) and the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT Y) to HB 3379. |
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128 |
Brian DeLashmutt |
Federation of Parole and Probation Officers (FOPPO). Testifies in support of HB 3379. Explains the difference between the -1 and the -2 amendments to HB 3379. Expresses preference for the -1 amendments. Explains there has been discussion between the proponents and the opponents of the bill. |
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183 |
Lucinda Carroll |
Parole Officer, Washington County Corrections. FOPPO. Testifies in support of HB 3379. |
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246 |
Brian Montgomery |
Parole and Probation Officer, Multnomah County. Testifies in support of HB 3379. Points out this bill will have little or no fiscal impact. Expresses support for the -1 amendments. |
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337 |
Jennifer Cameron |
President, AFSCME Local 2035. Testifies in support of HB 3379. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT Z). |
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370 |
Sen. Shields |
States that he is understanding the witness to say that she already has that status. |
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372 |
Cameron |
Replies she does not. Explains. |
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388 |
Sen. Shields |
Verifies there was a period of time where witness had that status. |
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390 |
Cameron |
Replies correct and explains in detail. |
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394 |
Sen. Shields |
Verifies that witness finds it a handicap to no longer have that power. |
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396 |
Cameron |
Replies yes. Provides clarification. |
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397 |
Sen. Ringo |
Asks for an example where this power would be necessary. |
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401 |
Montgomery |
Provides an example. |
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431 |
Sen. Ringo |
Inquires if additional training would be received if this bill passes. |
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434 |
Montgomery |
Explains they would not need additional training because they already receive training. |
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012 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Discusses authority of parole and probation officers. Points out the authority comes by agreement from the subject. Wonders if this legislation would put parole and probation officers into a constitutional confrontation for the issue of doing searches of other subjects without warrants. Wonders about officer safety. |
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046 |
Montgomery |
Discusses officer safety and training. Discusses differences between a probationer and a parolee. Explains how HB 3379 would benefit parole and probation officers. Discusses situations mentioned by Sen. Ferrioli. |
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089 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Comments on the differences between a parole and probation officer dealing with their probationer/parolee and dealing with others. |
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111 |
Montgomery |
Responds. Comments on the training of parole and probation officers. |
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142 |
Steve Berger |
Director of Community Corrections for Klamath and Lake Counties. Oregon Association of Community Corrections Directors. Expresses concerns with HB 3379. |
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160 |
Chair Brown |
Asks witnesses to meet after the hearing and attempt to work out the issues. |
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164 |
Berger |
Testifies in opposition to HB 3379. |
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275 |
Berger |
Discusses the -2 amendments. Explains he has no objections to HB 3379 with the -2 amendments. |
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286 |
Chair Brown |
States that John Powell, Paul Snider, Kelly Skye and Scott Taylor are all opposed to HB 3379. |
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295 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks if the people listed will be part of the conversation. |
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296 |
Chair Brown |
Replies yes. |
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300 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3379 and opens a work session on approval of drafting requests. |
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APPROVAL OF DRAFTING REQUESTS – WORK SESSION |
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Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Submits memo explaining the drafting request (EXHIBIT AA). |
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305 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves one drafting request be approved for drafting by Legislative Counsel and BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill. |
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306 |
Chair Brown |
Comments on the drafting request. |
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314 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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316 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on approval of drafting requests and opens a work session on HB 3092A for the purpose of reconsideration. |
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HB 3092A – POSSIBLE RECONSIDERATION AND WORK SESSION |
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Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Submits the –A6 amendments to HB 3092A which are amendments to resolve conflicts (EXHIBIT BB). |
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317 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of RECONSIDERING the vote on HB 3092A. |
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320 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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323 |
Chair Brown |
Explains there are conflict amendments that need to be adopted. |
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331 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3092-A6 amendments dated 06/20/05. |
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332 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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333 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 3092A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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337 |
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VOTE: 4-1-0 AYE: 4 - Atkinson, Shields, Ringo, Brown NAY: 1 - Ferrioli |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BROWN will lead discussion on the floor. |
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340 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 3092A and opens a work session on SJR 9. |
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SJR 9 – WORK SESSION |
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341 |
Chair Brown |
Comments on SJR 9. |
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345 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves SJR 9 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED recommendation. |
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347 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments that he will vote for this bill because he understands the total amount of the workload for legislators will not increase. |
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351 |
Chair Brown |
Replies correct. Explains it will shorten the time that legislators are here. |
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356 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. DEVLIN will lead discussion on the floor. |
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357 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on SJR 9. |
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358 |
Chair Brown |
Comments that SJR 24 will be heard tomorrow afternoon. |
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359 |
Chair Brown |
Opens a work session on HB 2932A. |
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HB 2932A – WORK SESSION |
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361 |
Chair Brown |
Comments on the –A2 amendments. |
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367 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2932-A2 amendments dated 06/01/05. |
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368 |
Sen. Shields |
Inquires if the –A2 amendments are added to the regular intent. |
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369 |
Chair Brown |
Replies yes. |
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372 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments this is a very narrowly tailored bill designed for a specific parcel. |
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373 |
Chair Brown |
Replies correct. |
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374 |
Sen. Ringo |
Makes comment. |
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380 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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384 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 2932A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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385 |
Sen. Shields |
Hopes the original intent of the bill will not be lost due to the amendments. |
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390 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WESTLUND will lead discussion on the floor. |
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395 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 2932A. |
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396 |
Chair Brown |
Comments that HB 3044 will carried over until tomorrow’s agenda. |
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406 |
Chair Brown |
Adjourns the meeting at 5:44 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 1037A, -A17 amendments, staff, 26 pp
B. SB 1037A, -A18 amendments, staff, 27 pp
C. HB 2932A, -A2 amendments, staff, 10 pp
D. SJR 24, -1 amendments, staff, 2 pp
E. SJR 24, written testimony, Sen. Bruce Starr, 4 pp
F. SJR 24, written testimony, Dan Lavey, 2 pp
G. SB 1074, -6 amendments, Sen. Floyd Prozanski, 4 pp
H. SB 1074, -4 amendments, Bill Judd, 4 pp
I. HB 3174A, -A3 amendments, staff, 1 p
J. HB 3174A, -A4 amendments, staff, 1 p
K. HB 3174A, -A5 amendments, Karen Heikes, 1 p
L. HB 3174A, written testimony, Karen Heikes, 5 pp
M. SB 1072, -1 amendments, staff, 6 pp
N. SB 1072, -2 amendments, staff, 8 pp
O. SB 1072, written testimony of Marvin Brown, Sen. David Nelson, 2 pp
P. SB 1072, written testimony, Sen. David Nelson, 4 pp
Q. SB 1072, PowerPoint presentation, Sen. David Nelson, 7 pp
R. SB 1072, written testimony, Mari Anne Gest, 3 pp
S. SB 1072, written testimony, Doug Heiken, 10 pp
T. SB 1072, written testimony, Jim Geisinger, 2 pp
U. SB 1072, written testimony of Governor Ted Kulongoski, Marvin Brown, 2 pp
V. SB 1072, written testimony, Lee Hazelwood, 1 p
W. SB 1072, informational packet, Greg Miller, 8 pp
X. HB 3379, -1 amendments, staff, 2 pp
Y. HB 3379, -2 amendments, staff, 4 pp
Z. HB 3379, written testimony, Jennifer Cameron, 2 pp
AA. Approval of drafting requests, memorandum, staff, 2 pp
BB. HB 3092A, -A6 amendments, staff, 1 p