SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES
July 26, 2005 Hearing Room B
1:00 P.M. Tapes 177 - 178
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Kate Brown, Chair
Sen. Ted Ferrioli, Vice-Chair
Sen. Jason Atkinson
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Frank Shields
STAFF PRESENT: Tiffany Harris, Committee Administrator
Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 1097 - Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 3159A - Work Session
HB 3184A - Public Hearing
HB 3037 - Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 177, A |
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005 |
Chair Brown |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:09 p.m. and opens a public hearing on SB 1097. Notes the committee is meeting as a subcommittee. |
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SB 1097 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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007 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SB 1097. Notes there are no amendments. |
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(Note: The committee is now meeting as a full committee.) |
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013 |
President Peter Courtney |
Senate District 11. Submits and reads written testimony in support of SB 1097 (EXHIBIT A). |
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046 |
President Courtney |
Discusses federal privacy laws. |
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054 |
Jim Willis |
Director, Oregon Department of Veterans’ Affairs. Explains belief that the remains of honorably discharged veterans may be at the Oregon State Hospital. Explains the process the department would take for the interment of the remains of honorably discharged veterans. |
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092 |
Maynard Hammer |
Oregon State Hospital. Testifies in support of SB 1097. Mentions federal privacy laws. |
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103 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on SB 1097 and opens a work session on SB 1097. |
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SB 1097 - WORK SESSION |
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106 |
Sen. Shields |
MOTION: Moves SB 1097 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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107 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. PRESIDENT COURTNEY will lead discussion on the floor. |
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111 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on SB 1097 and opens a work session on HB 3159A. |
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HB 3159A - WORK SESSION |
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115 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 3159A. Submits the -A7 amendments (EXHIBIT B). |
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118 |
Sen. Betsy Johnson |
Senate District 16. Testifies in support of HB 3159A. |
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128 |
Jessica Harris Adamson |
Associated General Contractors. Expresses support for HB 3159A. |
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132 |
Sen. Ringo |
Verifies there is agreement on the -A7 amendments. |
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133 |
Sen. Johnson |
Replies yes and explains language. |
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136 |
Sen. Atkinson |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3159-A7 amendments dated 7/22/05. |
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140 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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141 |
Sen. Atkinson |
MOTION: Moves HB 3159A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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145 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. JOHNSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
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149 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 3159A and opens a public hearing on HB 3184. |
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HB 3184 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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154 |
Marjorie Taylor |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 3184A. Submits and explains the -A3 amendments (EXHIBIT C). Explains relation to SB 765 (2005). |
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172 |
Sen. Vicki Walker |
Senate District 7. Expresses support for HB 3184A with the -A3 amendments. |
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178 |
Chair Brown |
Verifies that Sen. Walker was Chair of the Senate Education Committee. |
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179 |
Sen. Walker |
Replies correct. |
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180 |
Chair Brown |
Verifies that Sen. Walker worked on SB 765 and also appointed a workgroup which was led by Sen. Kruse regarding SB 765. |
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185 |
Sen. Walker |
Replies correct. |
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187 |
Chair Brown |
Asks about the goal of SB 765. |
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188 |
Sen. Walker |
Replies to get more money into the classrooms. Discusses the workgroup that took place in the Senate Education Committee. Explains HB 3184A with the -A3 amendments. |
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238 |
Sen. Ringo |
Expresses appreciation in working with Sen. Walker. Believes SB 765 is a good start. Disagrees that Educational Service Districts (ESDs) are necessary. Explains in detail. |
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252 |
Sen. Walker |
Believes that ESDs provide valuable services. |
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258 |
Sen. Ringo |
Opines that it may not be the most efficient way to have those services provided for the larger districts. |
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265 |
Sen. Walker |
Discusses regional ESDs. |
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273 |
Sen. Shields |
Refers to page 2, line 36 of the -A3 amendments. Wonders why community colleges are there and if they need to be there. |
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282 |
Sen. Walker |
Believes the community colleges representatives have some concerns. Explains why it is necessary. Discusses the goal of a seamless education system. |
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305 |
Julie Suchanek |
Oregon Community College Association. Asks that the bill be amended to remove the words “and community colleges” on page 3, lines 11-12 of the –A3 amendments. Explains concerns with mentioned language. Expresses willingness to work towards a seamless education system. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D). |
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330 |
Rob Myers |
Five Frontier Rural ESDs. Testifies regarding HB 3184A. |
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TAPE 178, A |
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Myers |
Continues testimony regarding HB 3184A. |
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Rep. John Dallum |
House District 59. Testifies regarding HB 3184A. Discusses the -A3 amendments. Expresses support for HB 3184A as drafted. States opposition to the -A3 amendments. |
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062 |
Tricia Smith |
Oregon School Employees Association. Submits and discusses written testimony in opposition to the -A3 amendments (EXHIBIT E). |
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150 |
Smith |
Concludes testimony. |
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185 |
Sen. Ringo |
Remarks on the ESD in his district. Believes that ESDs need a defined purpose. Remarks on accountability with regards to ESDs. Wants a bill that would focus on larger school districts. |
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225 |
Rep. Dallum |
Responds to Sen. Ringo’s comments. Looks forward to the opportunity to craft legislation which would be a solution to the geographical and population differences in the state. |
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269 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Wonders if there are any small ESDs that can meet the requirements for a regional ESD. |
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275 |
Myers |
Suggests the bar to meet the requirements is a subjective analysis because capacity is not clearly defined. Opines that it probably does not need to be done. |
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293 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Indicates support for not disempowering smaller ESDs. Comments on testimony. Comments on discussion with Sen. Ringo regarding getting resources into the classroom. Suggests the issue is that there are too many ESDs to manage. |
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Chair Brown |
Discusses the workgroup led by Sen. Kruse. Responds to Sen. Ferrioli’s entrepreneurial concerns. Suggests Sen. Ferrioli look at section 12 of the -A3 amendments. Explains they will not move HB 3184A forward today. |
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391 |
Ozzie Rose |
Association of Education Service Districts. Discusses opposition to the -A3 amendments. |
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TAPE 177, B |
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Rose |
Continues testimony in opposition to HB 3184A with the -A3 amendments. |
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044 |
Chair Brown |
States she is struggling with how to go forward on this issue because it has been discussed many times. |
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047 |
Rose |
Comments on changing boundaries. Comments on legislation passed which requires students to take four years of English and three years of Math to graduate high school (HB 3129A). |
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056 |
Chair Brown |
States the House passed that bill. |
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058 |
Rose |
Remarks on mentioned legislation. Comments on the legislature imposing new requirements with regards to performance, but not expanding resources. Expresses opposition to HB 3184A. Recognizes there is a need for better regional services. |
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073 |
Chair Brown |
Acknowledges that Vicki Fleming was a part of the workgroup. Asks for input of witness. |
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075 |
Vicki Fleming |
Deputy Superintendent, Oregon Department of Education (ODE). States she was a member of the mentioned workgroup. Explains that regardless of legislation passed by the legislature, they will continue to work with the other ESD superintendents. Mentions the No Child Left Behind Act and its affect on the ODE. Remarks on attempt to help meet the needs of every student in Oregon better. Discusses the -A3 amendments to HB 3184A. Comments on earlier testimony. |
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110 |
Rose |
States the first three pages were developed by a committee that represented 8 superintendents and is a nice piece of work. |
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117 |
Sen. Ringo |
States that he has some disagreements with Mr. Rose. Asks witnesses to meet with him outside of the room after the committee meeting to talk about a different idea. |
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130 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3184A. Recesses the meeting for five minutes at 2:16 p.m. The committee stands at ease. |
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131 |
Chair Brown |
Calls the meeting back to order at 2:27 p.m. and opens a work session on HB 3037. |
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HB 3037 - WORK SESSION |
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133 |
Tiffany Harris |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of HB 3037. Submits and explains the -3 amendments (EXHIBIT F) and the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT G) to HB 3037. |
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140 |
Sen. Atkinson |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3037-3 amendments dated 6/29/05. |
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144 |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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Chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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145 |
Sen. Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3037-4 amendments dated 7/12/05. |
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147 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks if the -4 amendments address the issue regarding the murder of a pregnant woman. |
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151 |
Chair Brown |
Replies correct. |
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152 |
Sen. Shields |
Wonders if there is going to be any testimony on the -4 amendments. |
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153 |
Chair Brown |
Explains there was a public hearing on both the original bill and the issue. |
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154 |
Sen. Shields |
Explains he will be voting no on the -4 amendments. |
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155 |
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VOTE: 3-1-1 AYE: 3 - Atkinson, Ferrioli, Brown NAY: 1 - Shields EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. |
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156 |
Chair Brown |
MOTION: Moves HB 3037 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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157 |
Chair Brown |
Expresses concerns with regards to expanding the death penalty. Acknowledges that the statutes are now inconsistent. |
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163 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Concurs with Chair Brown’s concerns with regards to expanding the death penalty. Expresses concerns regarding the -4 amendments. Appreciates Chair Brown moving the -3 amendments. Explains he will support the entire bill with reservation. |
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168 |
Sen. Shields |
Expresses concerns over the potential death of innocent people due to the death penalty. |
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174 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Makes comments regarding HB 3037. |
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193 |
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VOTE: 3-1-1 AYE: 3 - Atkinson, Ferrioli, Brown NAY: 1 - Shields EXCUSED: 1 - Ringo |
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Chair Brown |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. BROWN will lead discussion on the floor. |
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195 |
Chair Brown |
Makes comments. |
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198 |
Chair Brown |
Closes the work session on HB 3037 and adjourns the meeting at 2:32 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 1097, written testimony, Sen. Peter Courtney, 2 pp
B. HB 3159A, -A7 amendments, staff, 2 pp
C. HB 3184A, -A3 amendments, staff, 35 pp
D. HB 3184A, written testimony, Julie Suchanek, 3 pp
E. HB 3184A, written testimony, Tricia Smith, 3 pp
F. HB 3037, -3 amendments, staff, 1 p
G. HB 3037, -4 amendments, staff, 4 pp