SENATE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
February 14, 2005 Hearing Room C
3:10 P.M. Tapes 17 - 18
Corrected 10/28/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Joanne Verger, Chair
Sen. Doug Whitsett, Vice-Chair
Sen. Rick Metsger
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Bruce Starr
STAFF PRESENT: Judith Callens, Committee Administrator
Gary Roulier, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD & WITNESSES:
Introduction of Committee Bills – Work Session
SB 78 – Public Hearing
SB 448 – Public Hearing
SB 178 – Public Hearing
SB 488 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
|
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
|
TAPE 17, A |
||
|
003 |
Chair Verger |
Opens the meeting at 3:14 p.m. Opens a work session on introduction of committee bills. |
|
INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE BILLS – WORK SESSION |
||
|
005 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Presents LC 2687, LC 2688, LC 2689, LC 2637 and LC 2797 (EXHIBITS A, B, C, D and E). |
|
039 |
Sen. Whitsett |
MOTION: Moves LCs: 2687, 2688, 2689, 2637, 2797 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills. |
|
|
|
VOTE: 5-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
|
|
Chair Verger |
The motion CARRIES. |
|
045 |
Chair Verger |
Closes the work session and opens a public hearing on SB 78. |
|
SB 78 – PUBLIC HEARING |
||
|
048 |
Callens |
Explains the provisions of the bill. |
|
066 |
Robin Freeman |
Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT F) and testifies in support of SB 78, which requires drivers to submit certain accident reports to ODOT. |
|
070 |
Sen. Metsger |
Asks if the intent is that the accident reports would go to the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) rather than the police. |
|
082 |
Freeman |
Responds that the bill does not impact police reports. |
|
101 |
Sen. Metsger |
States that if you are involved in an accident, you are required to make a report. Asks if the report to DMV would be the only report required. |
|
109 |
Freeman |
Responds that is correct and reviews reporting under the current law. |
|
114 |
Sen. Metsger |
Comments that the requirement from his insurance carrier is that he report the accident to a law enforcement agency. |
|
121 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Adds that the intent is probably just to remove the “option” of taking the report to law enforcement rather than filing the report with the DMV. |
|
138 |
Freeman |
Agrees that this does not preclude a report to law enforcement. Stresses that this would facilitate the requirement that the report get to DMV so that licenses are not unnecessarily suspended. |
|
155 |
Sen. Metsger |
States that there needs to be coordination with the requirement of insurance carriers to report to law enforcement so that coverage is not denied in the event of an accident. |
|
179 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks if they have talked with insurance companies to see if they have any concerns. |
|
181 |
Freeman |
Responds that they have not. |
|
183 |
Chair Verger |
Closes the public hearing and opens a public hearing on SB 448. |
|
SB 448 – PUBLIC HEARING |
||
|
184 |
Sen. Betsy Johnson |
State Senator, District 16. Testifies in support of SB 448. |
|
214 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Asks for clarification of what this bill would allow with regard to the use of school buses for transport of individuals. |
|
218 |
Martin Loring |
Administrator, Public Transit Division, ODOT. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT G) and answers that there is a conflict between the motor carrier statutes and the state regulations on use of school buses. |
|
257 |
Chair Verger |
Points out that Greyhound is no longer offering services to certain communities and asks if this bill would alleviate some of those service reductions. |
|
269 |
Loring |
Answers that the motor carrier statutes are “complex” and “old.” |
|
292 |
Loring |
Continues with an explanation of the benefits of the bill and the restrictions of the motor carrier statutes. |
|
335 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks what the process would be for a private entity to come in and offer these services. |
|
342 |
Loring |
Summarizes the procedures for filing. Adds that the intent is that private carriers would always have the option to offer these services for a profit, but these particular routes are not profit-producing. |
|
364 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks if there are any liability issues with utilizing these resources. |
|
372 |
Loring |
Answers that is outside his expertise but that the applicable statutes would apply. |
|
383 |
Sen. Johnson |
Adds that this bill will solve some rural transportation problems. |
|
394 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Suggests that an emergency clause be added to the bill. |
|
TAPE 18, A |
||
|
003 |
Roger Martin |
Executive Director, Oregon Transit Association. Testifies in support of SB 448. Explains the benefits of the services provided by the Tillamook Transit District. |
|
027 |
Chair Verger |
Closes the public hearing on SB 448 and opens a public hearing on SB 178. |
|
SB 178 – PUBLIC HEARING |
||
|
032 |
Callens |
Explains the provisions of the bill. |
|
035 |
Freeman |
Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT H) and testifies in support of SB 178. |
|
070 |
Chair Verger |
Closes the public hearing on SB 178 and opens a public hearing on SB 488. |
|
SB 488 – PUBLIC HEARING |
||
|
073 |
Callens |
Explains the provisions of the bill. |
|
111 |
Chair Verger |
Explains the background of previous legislation passed on school zone speed limits. |
|
144 |
Chair Verger |
Continues with an explanation of the intent of previous legislation. |
|
163 |
Sen. Courtney |
State Senator, District 11, and President of the Senate. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT I) and testifies in support of SB 488. |
|
196 |
Sen. Courtney |
Notes that there are some errors in the drafted bill. |
|
239 |
Sen. Courtney |
Talks about the differences in school zones within different areas of the state and problems with driver unfamiliarity as to locations of school zones. |
|
265 |
Chair Verger |
Comments that many parents do not want the law changed. Adds that the fiscal impact is considerable. |
|
313 |
Chair Verger |
Notes that there are children present on weekends at many school functions. |
|
323 |
Sen. Metsger |
Agrees that the issue needs discussion and reviews the fiscal impact. |
|
380 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Suggests that the “old signage” may be available for use. |
|
403 |
Sen. Courtney |
Reviews some of the testimony received when the original bill was passed in the last legislature. |
|
TAPE 17, B |
||
|
011 |
Sen. Courtney |
Summarizes the intent of the original legislation. |
|
021 |
Troy Costales |
Manager, Transportation Safety Division, ODOT. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT J) and testifies in support of SB 488. |
|
043 |
Sen. Starr |
Asks if there have been any tickets given to drivers at 2:00 a.m. |
|
046 |
Costales |
Responds that they are not aware of any tickets being issued and believes it is “urban myth.” |
|
050 |
Sen. Starr |
Asks about the most dangerous aspect of the implementation of the law. Wants clarification as to whether it is the requirement to meet the speed limit 24 hours a day, or the lack of consistency between jurisdictions. |
|
060 |
Costales |
Answers that the main media message misinterpreted the bill at the outset. Adds that some signage was not installed in time and this added to the confusion. |
|
087 |
Costales |
States that much of the feedback is positive and drivers appreciate the fact that they know the requirement on their “normal routes.” |
|
093 |
Sen. Starr |
Comments that the lack of readability of the signage may be a problem. |
|
104 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks if there is accident data due to changing speeds on an open highway at a school zone. |
|
113 |
Costales |
Notes that the only data they have is for a three-month period and they will be evaluating that and future data. |
|
121 |
Sen. Whitsett |
States that the time when school is “not in session” might be the most hazardous time for drivers. |
|
130 |
Sen. Metsger |
Asks for an opinion on what might be the “best” solution. |
|
133 |
Costales |
Responds with a review of discussions during the last legislative session, to include removing the “double fine” penalty. Recommends that they have times posted for the speed limits and allow double fines. |
|
176 |
Sen. Metsger |
Stresses that we need to work on the issue while preserving the original intent, which was to protect children. |
|
194 |
Jon Oshel |
Association of Oregon Counties. Testifies in support of SB 488. Notes that the fiscal impact is “trivial” relative to the safety of the children. |
|
221 |
Christy Monson |
League of Oregon Cities. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT K) and testifies that their organization is neutral on SB 488. |
|
235 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks if they are aware of any counties that saved the old signage. |
|
240 |
Oshel |
Responds that many of the counties did save their signs. |
|
245 |
Monson |
Notes that a lot of the cities either put “stickers” or “riders” on their signs. |
|
257 |
Sen. Gary George |
State Senator, District 12. Testifies on the intent of the original legislation, and outlines some of the problems associated with the requirement to meet the speed limits at all times in school zones. |
|
291 |
Sen. George |
Notes some concerns of truckers about vehicles slowing when not necessary and causing an accident. Emphasizes the importance of proper signage. |
|
|
Kelly Scannell Brooks |
City of Eugene. Submits written testimony expressing concerns over definitions contained within SB 488. |
|
319 |
Chair Verger |
Closes the public hearing on SB 488. Discusses the next out-of-office trip scheduled for April 1. Closes the meeting at 4:35 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY