SENATE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
April 25, 2005 Hearing Room C
3:10 P.M. Tapes 55 - 57
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Joanne Verger, Chair
Sen. Doug Whitsett, Vice-Chair
Sen. Rick Metsger
Sen. Floyd Prozanski
Sen. Bruce Starr
STAFF PRESENT: Judith Callens, Committee Administrator
James Goulding, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 680 – Public Hearing
HB 2106 A – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2267 – Public Hearing and Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 55, A |
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003 |
Chair Verger |
Calls the committee to order at 3:17 p.m. Opens a public hearing on SB 680. |
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SB 680 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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015 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of the measure. Describes the differences between the -3 (EXHIBIT A) and -5 amendments before the committee (EXHIBIT B). |
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045 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Requests additional clarification on the -5 amendments. |
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050 |
Chair Verger |
Asks that Sen. Johnson come forward to testify and answer Sen. Prozanski’s question. |
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055 |
Sen. Betsy Johnson |
Senate District 16. Testifies in favor of SB 680 and the -5 amendments. Provides greater detail on “through-the-fence” airport operations. |
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090 |
Sen. Johnson |
Details the advantages presented for rural airports. |
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119 |
Sen. Metsger |
Clarifies that she is talking about the bill with the -5 amendments. |
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121 |
Sen. Johnson |
Replies that she is testifying on SB 680 with the -5 amendments. Continues to detail the measure. |
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157 |
Sen. Johnson |
Explains the importance of development of airports across the state. |
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179 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Notes concerns of the FFA in regards to this measure. |
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190 |
Sen. Johnson |
Relates that the FFA will not take away the funding. States that “through-the-fence” is not the FFA’s preference. |
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227 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Expresses confusion on what the measure does and asks if it would apply to the Hillsboro airport. |
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233 |
Sen. Johnson |
Replies that airports have to request to be included in this measure. |
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240 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Asks for clarification regarding what the measure proposes for Hillsboro. |
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244 |
Sen. Johnson |
Clarifies what the measure does. |
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270 |
Sen. Johnson |
Talks about the federal grant process and the agreements with local airports. |
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279 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks for clarification regarding page three, lines ten through twelve of the -3 amendments. |
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290 |
Sen. Johnson |
Explains what it means. |
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297 |
Sen. Metsger |
Wonders about Columbia Helicopters. |
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300 |
Sen. Johnson |
Replies that they are “through-the-fence”. Clarifies that they may have some lease holding as well. |
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325 |
Gary Oxley |
Oxley and Associates. Testifies in favor of SB 680. Notes that this measure is not a mandate and stresses that it is entirely voluntary. Feels this bill addresses the development of local businesses near rural airports. |
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375 |
Oxley |
Asks for specific individuals to come forward to testify. |
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399 |
Jerry Dale |
Chairman, Oregon Aviation Business Association (OABA). Testifies in favor of SB 680. |
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TAPE 56, A |
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005 |
Dale |
Notes that “through-the-fence” simply allows use of public airport facilities by private citizens. |
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035 |
Dale |
Advocates the need for more private operations at public airports. |
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040 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Questions if the measure would require a public facility to sell some of its land for private ownership. |
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045 |
Dale |
Replies no. |
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050 |
Chair Verger |
Asks for clarity of the ownership. |
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053 |
Dale |
Responds. |
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059 |
Ted Millar |
Westwood Development, Aurora. Testifies in favor of SB 680. Discusses his business operations in rural communities and the need for airports in economic development. |
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095 |
Millar |
Talks about Oregon creating a successful model for expanding rural airport operations. |
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101 |
Chair Verger |
Remarks on the size of Aurora airport. |
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105 |
Millar |
Relays the size and investment in the airport. |
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122 |
Sen. Metsger |
Clarifies the location of the potential growth of Aurora. |
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125 |
Millar |
Explains. |
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130 |
Richard Van Grunsven |
Van’s Aircraft, Inc. Presents written testimony in favor of SB 680 (EXHIBIT C). |
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175 |
Van Grunsven |
Talks about the needs of independent, small business people. |
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203 |
Chair Verger |
Remarks on the enthusiasm of those working in aviation. |
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219 |
Sen. Metsger |
Observes that many of his airplane kits are still being assembled. |
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224 |
Van Grunsven |
Comments on the time consuming nature of building an airplane. |
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237 |
Chair Verger |
Congratulates Mr. Van Grunsven on his “Freedom of Flight” Award. Asks about his background. |
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245 |
Van Grunsven |
Talks about his service in the United States Air Force and aviation career. |
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263 |
Joel Scoggins |
Columbia Helicopters. Offers background of the company and the operation of private, heavy-lift, helicopters. |
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300 |
Scoggins |
Discusses Port-of-Portland requiring them to move from Swan Island to Aurora. Notes the reluctance to invest in a location with the fear of being forced to move. |
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340 |
Scoggins |
Speaks in favor of SB 680 and the issues it will help address. |
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370 |
Chair Verger |
Points out her take on the language of the measure. |
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379 |
Scoggins |
Offers that the -3 amendments had stronger language. Hopes for additional cooperation from counties. |
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TAPE 55, B |
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005 |
Scoggins |
Feels this measure makes positive changes for all parties. |
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035 |
Bob Hidley |
Director, Oregon Department of Aviation. Remarks that the board does not have an official position on SB 680. Feels they are already doing what is contained in the bill. |
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053 |
Bob Rindy |
Oregon Department of Land Conservation Development (LCDC). Remarks that the department does not have a position, but feels LCDC will have to adapt its rules to accommodate SB 680. Asks for additional clarity in what they are being asked to do in the measure. |
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090 |
Rindy |
Notes the technical issues they have on the measure. Feels there is a lack of clarity in some of the language. |
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103 |
Chair Verger |
Asks if he is familiar with what the bill is aimed at. |
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109 |
Rindy |
Replies to question. |
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135 |
Robert Noble |
Manager, Eugene Airport, City of Eugene. Presents written testimony in opposition to SB 680 (EXHIBIT D). |
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180 |
Noble |
Opposes SB 680 and feels it would disrupt previous airport planning efforts. |
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210 |
Noble |
Relates “through-the-fence” airport security and fee concerns. |
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225 |
Chair Verger |
Points out the language he is referring to has changed in the -5 amendments. |
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227 |
Noble |
Concurs, but feels it is still similar. |
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241 |
Chair Verger |
Asks if he feels the current system is effective for economic development. |
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247 |
Noble |
Notes the process at Aurora Airport. Relates how the Eugene Airport had to deal with this issue. |
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260 |
Sen. Metsger |
Recalls his testimony on security. Wonders how this measure would compromise airport security. |
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271 |
Noble |
Replies that it would not change security procedures, but it would make it harder to regulate airport users. |
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279 |
Sen. Metsger |
Asks how security would be compromised by the measure. |
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280 |
Noble |
Responds. |
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283 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Asks about his perceived inconsistency with the measure. |
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295 |
Noble |
Responds to question. |
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321 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Wonders if there are any “through-the-fence” operations in Eugene. |
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322 |
Noble |
Replies there are none at the Eugene Airport. |
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340 |
Daren Griffin |
President, Oregon Airport Management Association. Provides written testimony in opposition to SB 680 (EXHIBIT E). |
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TAPE 56, B |
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010 |
Griffin |
Notes the amount of land available for development around rural airports. |
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022 |
Chair Verger |
Mentions Sen. Johnson’s testimony that it is not aimed at commercial air service. Clarifies that Griffin is referring to general aviation specifically. |
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026 |
Griffin |
Clarifies that his remarks are focused on general aviation airports in Oregon. |
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027 |
Sen. Metsger |
Wonders how much has been invested in general aviation airports that do not have commercial service. |
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030 |
Griffin |
Replies that it is less than half. |
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039 |
Sen. Metsger |
Asks if there is a history of how “through-the-fence” has worked at airports. |
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043 |
Griffin |
Responds. |
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052 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks what the guidelines are for long term leases. |
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054 |
Griffin |
Replies that the FAA guidelines for long term leases is thirty years. |
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072 |
Dennis Winningstad |
General Manager, Central Oregon Coast Air Services. Testifies in favor of SB 680. |
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077 |
Gina Thompson |
Scappoose Airport. Testifies in favor SB 680. Talks about improving aviation. |
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116 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Questions the impact of the measure on her operations. |
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120 |
Thompson |
Replies it will assist in creating jobs. |
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135 |
John Cox |
Oregon Pilots. Presents written testimony in favor of SB 680 (EXHIBIT F). |
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200 |
Cox |
Feels this measure is a viable business tool. |
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217 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Considers the impact of a sunset on potential development. |
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220 |
Cox |
Responds to question regarding the sunset. |
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226 |
Aron Faegre |
Aron Faegre and Associates. Replies in regards to the sunset. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT G) and a booklet (EXHIBIT H). |
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354 |
Chair Verger |
Closes public hearing on SB 680. Opens public hearing on HB 2106 A. |
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HB 2106 A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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361 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Explains the measure. |
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367 |
Robin Freeman |
Oregon Department of Transportation. Testifies in favor of HB 2106 A. |
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393 |
Chair Verger |
Requests an example of where it would occur. |
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397 |
Freeman |
Illustrates where it would occur. |
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TAPE 57, A |
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001 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Questions the emergency clause in the measure. |
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005 |
Freeman |
States the need to correct this quickly. |
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011 |
Chair Verger |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB 2106 A. |
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HB 2106 A – WORK SESSION |
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013 |
Sen. Whitsett |
MOTION: Moves HB 2106 A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Verger |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. WHITSETT will lead discussion on the floor. |
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018 |
Chair Verger |
Closes work session and opens a public hearing on HB 2267. |
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HB 2267 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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021 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of HB 2267. |
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026 |
Paul Donheffner |
State Marine Board. Presents written testimony submitted for the record (EXHIBIT I). |
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057 |
Chair Verger |
Asks if they applied for federal funds. |
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065 |
Donheffner |
Replies it relates back to a court case. Notes the convolution in the current statute. |
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075 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Asks if there is a need for an emergency clause. |
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082 |
Donheffner |
Responds that an emergency clause is not needed. |
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090 |
Chair Verger |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB 2267. |
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HB 2267 – WORK SESSION |
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092 |
Sen. Whitsett |
MOTION: Moves HB 2267 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Verger |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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097 |
Chair Verger |
Closes work session and adjourns the committee at 5:12 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY